WHERE DOES A HERO GO FROM HERE?
Why 2003 is an important year for Kamal Haasan. And why Anbe Sivam could well be the film that defines his future.
DEC 2003 – AN ARTICLE ABOUT KAMAL HAASAN IS AN EASY ASSIGNMENT FOR A WRITER. He’s prolific, having starred in some 200 films, including the cinema of several regions. He’s popular – even an eventual debacle like Aalavandhan manages an impressive initial. He’s prodigiously talented, with three National Awards and the highest number of Filmfare Awards for an actor. And he’s provided enough spice through his private life to keep gossip rags going for years. Simply put, there’s enough about the man and enough that’s been written about him to make an assessment of his achievements an absurdly easy affair, which is why it’s interesting to look not at the past, but at the present and the future – Kamal Haasan, 2003 and beyond.
2003 has turned out a year to remember for Kamal Haasan for reasons he’d sooner forget. It’s the year that saw his cerebral Pongal release Anbe Sivam – his best film in quite a while – get bulldozed at the box-office by Vikram’s feel-good masala fest Dhool. It’s the year he launched his home production Sandiyar, only to have the title’s casteist connotations – it means rogue – come under attack from Dr S Krishnaswamy, leader of the dalit party Pudhiya Thamizhagam, which has left the movie bereft of a moniker as of this writing. And as if the audience indifference and the artistic infringement weren’t enough, this is also the year the actor completed forty-nine, stepped into the threshold of his fifties – a factor that’s sure to affect the parts he plays in future films.
That’s a lot of professional and personal baggage for one man in one year, but Kamal Haasan has always been something of a survivor. In the seventies, he survived getting typecast in supporting roles by hitching his wagon to the Balachanders and the Bharatirajas, by positioning himself as mud to be moulded by the sculptors who were reshaping Tamil cinema. In the eighties, he survived the Rajinikanth onslaught by sliding ever-so-slowly into his now-patented brand of art-commerce ventures, by positioning himself as the Super Actor who would take the creative risks the Super Star wouldn’t or couldn’t. And in the nineties, he survived the wave of young heroes, the Vijays and the Ajiths, by writing actor-showcase parts for himself no one else could dream of conceiving, by positioning himself as the cartographer who kept redrawing the boundaries of Tamil cinema to accommodate his artistic ambitions.
So, yes, one disastrous year isn’t going to destroy Kamal Haasan, but it certainly raises some questions. How is he going to survive the new millennium? How does he plan to position himself to an audience that treated Anbe Sivam like that tall glass of milk mother made them drink every morning in comparison to the sundae-with-every-imaginable-topping that was Dhool, an audience that increasingly seeks entertainment not edification from their cinema?
Kamal is certainly aware of the widening gap between what he wants and what the viewers want. Some years ago, in a Rediff.com interview, the actor confessed, “I am mediocre because that is my audience. It is not that I am generalising. The daily collection report says that my general audience is mediocre. The minorities who talk as cleverly as I do don’t matter because they can have a private conversation with me.” This awareness, however, doesn’t seem to have translated to action – at least not all the way, as Anbe Sivam, part pandering and part private conversation, demonstrates.
For all its merits – and there are many – Anbe Sivam isn’t a movie as much as a magnifying glass trained at the crossroads Kamal Haasan finds himself at today. In a sense, the dramatic crux of the film isn’t the story – spoilt yuppie Anbarasu (Madhavan) is plagued by well-meaning leech Nallasivam (Kamal) during a journey, but learns valuable life lessons along the way – but the three-way tug of war between writer Kamal Haasan, star Kamal Haasan and actor Kamal Haasan, a clash of personalities and sensibilities infinitely more interesting than the Kamal-versus-Kamal showdown we saw in Aalavandhan/Abhay.
We’ve seen Kamal Haasan act for so long now that everything in his arsenal – his laughter, his cries, the softening of his face in the romantic passages – is familiar, but Anbe Sivam contains one of his obsessive makeup-makeovers that results in a persona that’s different, yet familiar. With thick glasses and facial scars, a dislocated jaw and paralysed limbs (you even see a toe sticking out when he’s lying down), Kamal appears a grotesque version of his Mayor in Indrudu Chandrudu. It’s an amazing transformation, a superb performance – yet ticket-buyers, the same masses that descended in droves to see similar efforts in Indian/Hindustani and Apoorva Sagotharargal/Appu Raja, stayed away. And one of the reasons they stayed away from Kamal the Actor is surely Kamal the Writer, surely the excess that’s increasingly crept into his screenwriting.
When Kamal’s writing is in top gear – Thevar Magan, Mahanadhi – you are so drawn into the film that it’s only later you discover the density of ideas within. In Anbe Sivam, time just seems to stand still (especially with silence ruling the soundtrack) when trademark Kamal musings – about globalisation, MNCs, pharaohs, the nature of divinity, Adobe software – come to fore, because every single idea that crossed his head appears to have found its way into the writing, with sometimes scant regard for fitting in with the rest of the film. And Kamal the Writer being in service of Kamal the Star, there’s a gratuitously indulgent flashback (much to the detriment of Madhavan’s character arc) detailing the not-yet-disfigured Nallasivam’s romance (featuring a duet, naturally, with a half-his-age Kiran) and involvement in communism (featuring a fight, naturally, with Kamal using an umbrella the way he used a stool in the dishoom-dishoom in Thoongaathey Thambi Thoongaathey some twenty years ago).
The failure of Anbe Sivam has elicited mournful discourses about the future of meaningful Tamil cinema, but it also brings us to our original question – what does it mean to the future of Kamal Haasan? Is this art-commerce mix he’s been adhering to on its way out, or does his brand of cinema simply need an infusion of fresh blood?
No one doubts his talent or his tenacity. He is, after all, the actor who experimented with his image – portraying the village idiot in 16 Vayadhinile and the psycho-killer in Sigappu Rojakkal at a time he was the leading Lothario of Kodambakkam – long before experimentation became fashionable. You only have to look around to see how much his characterisations and his choices have impacted the current crop of leading men – a darkened and deranged Vikram in the Diwali smash Pithamagan channels similar tics adopted by Kamal in Guna, while Dhanush in his blockbuster Kaadhal Kondain is literally a teen version of Kamal’s character in Guna.
But talent and tenacity cannot flourish in a vacuum, and Kamal Haasan – in his efforts to bend, twist, shape-shift Tamil cinema into forms never-before seen – has shut himself in a cocoon of his own creative juices for far too long now. He needs stronger collaborators – to disabuse him of his fancies of catering to fans, to suggest that his admirers would only be too happy to see their idol age on screen in ways that do not involve fights and duets. He needs directors and writing partners who can outshout his tendencies towards overembellishment, who would have seen that Anbe Sivam, while leagues ahead of the average Tamil – why, even Indian – film, would leave the casual cinemagoer unimpressed by its cerebral concerns and the serious moviegoer struggling with other issues. And he needs capable costars to play off his own performance – Madhavan in Anbe Sivam is certainly a good start – and provide healthy competition even as they help draw in younger viewers.
There’s something else Kamal Haasan needs – something not dependent on outside factors or other people, something he could do himself – and that’s to get rid of gimmickry and get back to the simplicity that’s symbolised his best performances. It’s not unusual for great actors – and Kamal certainly is one – to rely on externals to hone a performance, but when overused or overdone the makeup and the mannerisms threaten to become the performance. When you see a Moondram Pirai or a Saagara Sangamam or a Mahanadhi, you see an actor delivering emotion without exhibition. Perhaps it’s time to get back to the basics, and perhaps the Kamal Haasan of the less-is-more past is the key to the survival of the Kamal Haasan of the future.
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brangan
June 18, 2008
A piece I wrote five years ago… A lot of it still seems relevant after Dasavatharam…
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Deepauk M
June 18, 2008
I swear I hadn’t read this before I wrote the less is more part of my comment 🙂 . I’ll be back for more on this article later.
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Dharuni
June 18, 2008
Seems like you missed Nayagan? 🙂
I agree with most of what you said, though I’d like to think that Kamal despite the personal-life-mess-masala/makeovers/makeup/stunts is probably one actor who could still pull the ‘thinking’ crowd in.
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bart
June 18, 2008
Baradwaj, felt the following parts seem very relevant currently..
a) “And one of the reasons they stayed away from Kamal the Actor is surely Kamal the Writer, surely the excess that’s increasingly crept into his screenwriting.”
“…because every single idea that crossed his head appears to have found its way into the writing, with sometimes scant regard for fitting in with the rest of the film”
b) “…and perhaps the Kamal Haasan of the less-is-more past is the key to the survival of the Kamal Haasan of the future.”
But Dasa’s success from what the early news stories are, indicate that whatever grouses we have on Dasa or on the above talked about points, he seems to have got the following statement right this time….
c) “I am mediocre because that is my audience. It is not that I am generalising. The daily collection report says that my general audience is mediocre. The minorities who talk as cleverly as I do don’t matter because they can have a private conversation with me. ”
Am happy for him on this…
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enRenRum anbudan BALA
June 18, 2008
Objective analysis …
//one actor who could still pull the ‘thinking’ crowd in.
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“THINKING” is really a MISNOMER 🙂
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Ravi K
June 18, 2008
I think Kamal’s screenplays contain interesting elements, but claims of his being a great voice of reason in Tamil cinema are overblown. He is no different from the usual mass heroes these days in that his ego ends up on-screen, though in slightly artier digs. Kamal is a fine and ambitious actor, but he really needs someone to reign him in, either a screenwriter or a director. I suspect that the directors on films he writes are often cyphers for his own direction. When did Suresh Krishna, for example, show that he could direct a serious and technical film like Aalavandhan?
On the flipside, if Kamal isn’t going to create interesting roles for himself, who is? I think most directors in Tamil cinema would either be in awe of him or they wouldn’t be able to come up with anything fitting his talent.
I am waiting for Dasavatharam ticket price to go down here in the US before I see it ($15 is ridiculous), but I fear that Kamal’s performances will be less like Sivaji Ganesan in Navarathiri and more like Eddie Murphy in Norbit…
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MumbaiRamki
June 18, 2008
Seriana Piece !
To be honest, whatever he does there are going to be people who will thrash him up through their pen.
Probably whole question would not come if , lets say that kamal was more successfull in the recent years – I think the problem is that he has become more of writer who has gone to a shell and as you have said, started spitting his ideas in every dialogue of his . Simplicity suffers, the viewer is constantly distracted from what he wants to connect emotionally or probably wants to see ( unconsicuously) . I think this is what people mean by self- indulgence . Its not that other directors who make serious films don’t convey their ideas or ‘indulge’ their life into the frames. But its Kamal Hassaian way, the balance of visuals and dialogues and the appropriateness and the frequency of such occurences -is what makes the viewer ignore him.
But again in virumaandi , he probably for most part of it didn’t let his communism, atheism out of his mind into the screen – and thats why probably that movie was acceptable to class and mass to an extent.
( Dasavatharam is still a hugely commercially successfull movie(atleast the first week is ) . It has found him new audience- albeit he has lost some of his sincere followers. He should thank the telugu people – for otherwise balaram naidu would’nt be there !!!)
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wb
June 18, 2008
bard, this one, albeit dated, still packs quite a punch – not unlike aged single malt. btw, no dasavatharam review?
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Never Mind
June 18, 2008
While I agree with most of what you have to say, you seem to forget that Kamal keeps himself in the game with movies like Panchatantram and Bramhachari (in telugu). Like he mentions these are mediocre movies made special by his comic timing. I would not have watched those movies if not for Kamal.
But at least it is really nice to see that he still picks and chooses what he wants to do instead of being in your face all the time like a certain Mr.Bachchan (I can never spell his name right!)
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bollyaddict
June 18, 2008
I’ve had the opportunity to watch Dasavatharam (for 12 €, which is even more than 15 $ Ravi, actually 18,60 $, but I’ve spent it for the rare opportunity to catch a tamil film with subtitles), although it was partly entertaining, I was quite dissappointed in Kamal – why all these completely unnecessary characters wirh in some cases horrible make-up? Less would definitely have been more! In that I fully agree with brangan and also, that he needs good writers and directors. Dasavatharam is the work of a narcistic actor, full of himself! I prefer the Kamal Hassan of Nayakan or Hey Ram, or even Anbe Sivam (must admit, I haven’t seen any other of his films …) “…and that’s to get rid of gimmickry and get back to the simplicity that’s symbolised his best performances.” – yes!
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raj
June 18, 2008
kamal has always given space to others in his movies – even to god-dammit Abbas :-). The same abbas whose role in padaiyapppa was to ogle at Rajni’s graphic muscles (What a man!) 🙂
Rather unfair to say that Anbe Sivam was a start in terms of giving meaty roles to co-stars. Didnt sharukh get a solid role in Hey Ram? Atul Kulkarni?
Virumandi?
Movies like MBBS are an aberration. I am not sure if Dasavatharam is. It is rather sad that BR wouldnt/cdoesnt have time to give a detailed opinion which will dissect whats wrong with the movie rather than a single word terrible. I mean, I find it disturbing that such a nuanced critic has to review the likes of Shakalaka bum bum but cannot review Dasavatharam. What sort of review culture we have? What sort of newspaper editors we have?
I mean, terrible as it was to BR, was it so intolreably unwatchable for someone who has sat throguh SBB, Main Aisa hi hoon, Qayamat etc and that too with full concentration?
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raj
June 18, 2008
Let’s take Lagaan. Great as the movie was, did anyone buy aamir khan as the kutchi farmer? Ofcoruse, lots of people did thats why it was a blockbuster but I mean, can any honest critic say that he got into the skin of that character? I couldnt see beyond Aamir Khan’s persona in that one.
Om Shanti Om? What was so great about that one? What was so wonderful about Sharukh’s performance?
Sivaji?RAjnikanth?
Why is it easy to accept such crap but not Dasavatharam?
I do remember BR did say Sivaji was paisavasool or thaliavar delivers or something like that? We have one set of rules for Rajni and SRK , amother for Kamal?
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brangan
June 18, 2008
raj: For one, it might help to actually see the film before jumping to its defense. (And of course, you may find it a masterpiece, so you may *really* end up jumping to its defense.)
Another thing: there’s a difference between writing a full-fledged review (weighing pros and cons and interpreting the film) versus a quick, one-liner appraisal. If I wrote a big review, I’m – of course – going to talk about the (very few) things that worked. But net-net, I thought it was bad.
Plus, you really want me to praise a Kamal film because it’s better than Shakalaka Boom Boom? Come on, man. And for the record, I hated Sivaji – and I can’t imagine what gave you the idea that I “accepted such crap.” If you read my review and came away with a “paisa vasool” recommendation, then I must be a truly terrible communicator.
Actually, from what you say, I probably am. For if from “He plays so instinctively, so effortlessly to the gallery – part action stud, part bumpkin buffoon – that he gets away with things he shouldn’t be getting away with,” you take away “Akshay kumar carries Tashan on his shoulders,” despite the rest of the review, then I’m really at a loss for words.
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raj
June 18, 2008
br, my anguish is not that you gave a bad oneliner for dasa. It is that newspaper review being what it is, you actually cannot *review* it. I think newspapers should organise reviews such that the newbie does shakalaka bum bum and br gets to do the big ones- whether hindi or tamil – that way movies like dasa will get the attention from you they deserve irrespective of their crap quotient.
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Vijay
June 18, 2008
Raj, Bharadwaj was severely critical of Sivaji. I am surprised that you of all people, being a bigtime Bharadwaj fan, missed that. Read the review here again
http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2007/06/17/review-sivaji/
Maybe you confused someone else’s review of Sivaji with Bharadwaj’s.
I think it was Sudish Kamath who said “thalaivar delivers” or something like that. Rajni is not Bharadwaj’s thalaivar for sure 🙂
I am sure if Bharadwaj was given the opportunity to write a review on Dasavatharam, he would dissect it and address the flaws. But I guess he reviews only selected movies for the print version.
If anything he probably has a soft corner for Kamal and is less critical than he should be, is my guess 🙂
It is a little sad that his profession demands him to review Hindi movies more, but I dont think it means he is biased towards them. I think you are a little off with your criticism here.
Bharadwaj, maybe once in a while you can write your thoughts on movies like Thamizh MA,Mozhi,Veyyil and so on just for this blog, you know, even if it not going to appear in print. Rather than just getting e-versions of printed reviews, how about you blog your thoughts on some speical movies, atleast in Tamil, that you may not have had the opportunity to publish in print? That would make your blog more personal too and different from being just the e-version of your published reviews. After all thats what blogs are about. This was more like a suggestion, not a complaint from my side, after all this is your blog.
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Deepauk M
June 18, 2008
There is an important difference between all the movies you have classified as instant classics (Mahanadhi, Guna, Thevar Magan, Hey Raam) and the others (Dasa, Anbe Sivam – A personal favorite, but I do recognise it for the middle of the road movie it is). I think Kamal the writer services the Kamal the star only when the productions are not for RaajKamal. The only exception I can think of to this rule is that epitome of commercial cinema Aboorva Sagodharargal.
In the other RaajKamal productions Sakthivel Devar, Krishnaswamy, Guna and Saket Ram are never larger than the movie. Nallasivam was larger than the movie, especially in the flashback sequence, which is why I was so impressed by the scene where he breaks down in front of Madhavan.
I certainly think gives Kamal has always given costars incredible space to perform. I refuse to believe that the person who wrote Peria Thevar, S.N.Lakshmi’s Paatti characters (Thevar Magan and Mahanadhi), Pazhani in Sathi Leelavathi and Kothala Thevar is incapable of trusting fellow artistes with enacting his characters. But the issue, IMO, is one of respect.It seems that of the younger crop Madhavan seems to be the only person who has earned his respect, enough to let him star completely in a script he wrote (Nala Damayanthi).
I dont know how true the statement about him working in a vacuum is. He still creates so many earthy characters in spite of living a blessed life that might cause one to completely forget ground realities. So I will still look forward to Marmayogi and I will still expect great things of him, because like those prophetic lines he himself wrote “Ungalaththaane Nambanum.”
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Vijay
June 18, 2008
Now regarding this topic, I too feel Kamal tries to incorporate one too many ideas into the script. Virumandi could have just could have stopped with Kamal’s version, with the mercy plea pending. Instead he had to talk about capital punishment at the end, have a ridiculous climatic fight and so on. The movie could have just been about different perspectives and how it affects the lives of those involved.
Same with Anbe Sivam -he is a painter, Marxist, street dancer, singer, romantic,altruist all rolled into one 🙂
The flashback was a compromise. But a compromise that didnt work. Meaning the move neither fetched commercial returns nor did it satisfy the serious viewer.
Unfortunately since then, he has avoided going in that direction totally and has settled for big budget ventures with a lot of hype. money and big banner names involved. Marma Yogi seems like another big budget venture with makeup changes, special effects and the likes.
If you want a simple Raaja Paarvai or Moondram Pirai, you are not getting it any time soon.
That aside, I feel the Tamil film Industry itself is suffering(creatively) from this kind of phenomenon recently. Look at all the hype, the talk about the budget involved, the red carpet premiers and all that before the release of big star films. I get the feeling that atleast in the near future it would be futile to expect simple well-told movies from anyone, leave alone Kamal.Vikram has indulged himself in such ventures and is refusing to come out it. Same is the case with some of the other big stars. The market has gotten bigger and everyone wants to make big movies and get bigger returns in the first week after release.The economics has changed.Even a second-tier hero spends close to 6-8 months on his movie(as against 1-2 months in the 80s) and wants to rake in the moolah from Telugu and Mallu markets as well based on star power. So such films need to have all the elements of a masala firmly entrenched in place.Strange, considering how there was all the talk about the multiplexes encouraging simple offbeat ventures.
In the end, it is left to the same 4 or 5 directors who dare to do something different, to try out something new and swim against the tide.
Maybe if Kamal can submit himself and his ego to the new wave of young directors like Ameer, Selvaraghavan, Myskin, Bala and the likes and keep his involvement behind the camera to a minimum we could see something diff. Or he could focus all his energies on just the screenwriting and let someone else hog the limelight in his films, but I guess that would be too tall of an order. He has to be atleast 70 to do that 🙂 I thought Virumandi would have been better with someone other than Kamal being Virumandi, what with the rest of the cast delivering an effective relaistic portrayal.Unfortunately in quite a few scenes I got the impression that I was watching Kamal and not the character
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Arun
June 18, 2008
Ah if you would only put up your Hey Ram review now 🙂
and uh is this blog supposed to have only the pieces you write for IE and those other magazines you write occasionally for ??
do you have a different blog where you would have put up your thoughts/analysis on movies/books/music (as in not an official review for a newspaper) ? or are you not allowed to have the 2 overlap in this blog?
I would love to see your take on ,say, a Raja paarvai…and seeing that you ‘liked’ Aalavandaan and Mumbai Express(both of which I loved), I would like to see your take on them too .please .. I’m sure you can dig them up 🙂
.. and I didnt know newspapers had this policy where their main critic is not alloted the main release of the season… hmm…
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Vijay
June 18, 2008
“But the issue, IMO, is one of respect.It seems that of the younger crop Madhavan seems to be the only person who has earned his respect, enough to let him star completely in a script he wrote (Nala Damayanthi).”
Probably because Madhavan is a fan of Kamal, a friend, and gushes about him all the time. Certainly Madhavan could not have earned much respect as an actor due to his limited histrionics. On that basis, maybe Surya who is another fan and friend of Kamal could be the next in line.
Personally I wish someone like Jeeva would co-star in a serious film with Kamal. Jeeva has the potential but needs refinement.
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K.Mirandi
June 18, 2008
I presume this is the Dasa review ?
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Sagarika
June 18, 2008
brangan: Oh my God, I LOVE this piece! Where was it ALL THIS WHILE? It’s as if you took a dive into the ocean five years ago, found an oyster and somehow slipped this piece in, only to let it blossom into this precious pearl before fishing it out for us now…thank you so much.
So what if Dasavatharam turned out to be a disaster…a case of avatar gone awry? Like you allude to here, the man did oh-so-swimmingly give us Saagara Sangamam that was his Matsyaavatar. So the prototype for all his future incarnations was already established way back when but, like this piece, possibly submerged. It’s only a matter of time before he finds his ocean, plumbs its depths…and given he’s been there, done that and all…
Deepauk M: I’m sure that — after a five-year soul-searching — if brangan were to re-write this piece today, he would have automatically addressed a lot of what you point out here and much much more. This is after all, a pristine piece that just emerged from the ocean’s depths, untouched by the ravages (or rapturous re-touches) of time. But I sure am glad there’s enough of us (brangan being #1 in the line) who believe there’s still hope for Kamal’s resurrection, redemption…
Vijay: I’m really beginning to warm up to you (not that I’ve ever hated you or anything but you know what I mean). 🙂 This is unrelated to the current thread but wanted to let you know that I’ve always felt that “one can never *fake* interest in any art” pet peeve of yours was a valid one.
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brangan
June 19, 2008
Vijay/Arun: The paper doesn’t have any such policy, but look at it this way. When you’re in another profession, a blog is an outlet for your writing and so on, so you wouldn’t mind spending time on it. But I write for a living (about four or five big stories a week, all time consuming), so in my spare time, MORE WRITING is the last thing I want to do. It’s like that joke about the gynaecologist who came home and wouldn’t make love to his wife because he couldn’t bear the thought of looking at another p***y [The actual joke’s far worse, and I’ve edited it for family readership] 🙂
That said, I have been making a conscious effort to cover some big films in my Between Reviews column (I did Anjaathey, Kuruvi and so on). With this one, I’m doing the magazine piece — so it’s not like I’m “ignoring” 10A 🙂
“and I didnt know newspapers had this policy where their main critic is not alloted the main release of the season” But I’m not the main Tamil film critic. That’s someone else, and they can’t possibly have her review all the crap and then snatch the year’s biggest release away from her 🙂
I did write a Hey Ram (and Aalavandhan) review long back, before I started writing for a paper. It must be around somewhere. I’ll look around.
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Nandita
June 19, 2008
If you want to know BR’s take on Mumbai express:
http://reeltwo.blogspot.com/2005/04/mumbai-xpress-take-two-true-successor.html
BR-It is a pity the two of you discontinued that blog.
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srikantan
June 19, 2008
The article above is as usual very well written. Although I have reservations on certain aspects of how Kamal should change etc., I do not want to comment on this part since BR has every right to have his view. I would rather like to write something on Dasavatharam, which I did watch in US of A paying $30 (for two tickets) with my wife after a 90 minute drive. I found this movie as one of the best commercial movie from India in recent times and definitely Kamal’s best since Hey Ram with the exception of Anbe Sivam. More than the 10 roles he plays on screen (I do not like the make-up of 2 of them), I liked his role as a Story, Screenplay and Dialogue writer. The story although completely fictious, it is believeable. It is tied up very well so that you do not have any loose ends, everything is logical. The dialogue is very much on your face and extremely witty (especially for Naidu and Bush). The voice modulation is great whether it is for Naidu, Bush or Fletcher. The only two characters with unconvincing make-up are the Japanese and tall muslim characters.
There is no doubt that the movie caters to the masala audience with a little bit of sophistication. If somebody goes to see a masala hollywood movie from Spielberg they should enjoy this movie. The only problem being that most of us expect more classy things from Kamal. This time one should appreciate that he has tried to change the face of masala movie.
I hope to here from others regarding this. movie.
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anon
June 19, 2008
Kamal should first get rid of his coterie of yes-men – K.S. Ravikumar, Santhana Barathi, Suresh Krishna etc. and make movies w/ the new and emerging directors. VV was a step in the right direction, though by no means perfect. He should try and promote newer talent like Mysskin, Ameer, Rama Subbu, even Selvaraghavan. They will benefit from Kamal’s presence and learn from him. They will force Kanal to come out his comfort zone. Bachchan did that when he broke the shackles of K. Ramanaathans, Prakash Mehras, Manmohan Desais of the world who were stuck in the 70s even through the early 90s, which led to his slump. It was only when he reinvented himself and decided to work w/ the Shaad Alis and Balkis of the world that he has given some of his best performances in recent times. Even w/ missteps like Boom and relapse into melodramas like Bhagban, the range of his recent work has been fascinating. Kamal (and Rajini) need to grow up and play their age!
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Vijay
June 19, 2008
Baradwaj, I understand that you have to take time off from writing. However when you said
“That said, I have been making a conscious effort to cover some big films in my Between Reviews column (I did Anjaathey, Kuruvi and so on).”
Thats where i have a small problem 🙂 It is not necessarily the BIG masala films that I am requesting you cover in your spare time. Seriously why would I want to read your take on a film like Kuruvi?:-) In fact, I thought your Kuruvi review was for your print version. I am now upset that if you did it in your precious spare time.
No, what I requested is you cover special films and those that might have slipped by under the radar, the noteworthy ones like Thamizh MA(which was’nt hyped and sadly overlooked) , Veyyil and so on. Anjaadhey is also not a bad example. I certainly dont await your reviews of Kireedam or Kuruvi or Billa. I mean, what are you going to write about them? That they suck? We already know that 🙂
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Zero
June 19, 2008
Baradwaj,
It’s actually well established that Kamal films are best when produced by Raajkamal Films International. I tend to even use it as a thumb rule of sorts. Just a cursory look at the opening title sequences of Raajkamal-produced ventures vis-a-vis ventures of other production houses will indicate how different these two “modes” actually are. The films on the latter mode are the ones that most often carry a significant baggage of Kamal the star-actor. I remember writing this short post when 10A was announced, saying that it’s high time Kamal went ahead and did a film with his production house. Marmayogi is just that, and I can’t wait, honestly.
And, yes, Dasavathaaram was bad. No two ways about it for me.
Deepauk M,
Yes, Anbe Sivam is definitely an anomaly in this respect. The greatest anomaly however has to be ‘Mahanadhi’, which was produced by SA Rajkannu (Sri Amman Creations), not by Kamal. That’s one masterpiece that nobody saw coming. No other major ’90s Kamal film came with such a complete absence of hype. I remember Kamal mentioning in one of his interviews that he wrote Mahanadhi in a “room without windows.” I wish he goes back to the same room again and locks himself up.
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Vijay
June 19, 2008
A regular Sify interview with some bad questions. But neverthless reading Kamal’s defense of his work is always interesting
http://sify.com/movies/telugu/imagegallery/galleryDetail.php?hcategory=13733819&hgallery=14697088
Q: You have received accolades for your 10 roles. But on the other hand, critics are saying that the film is very confusing and has no story.
Kamal: There is always criticism. In fact, I myself am my biggest critic. Dasavatharam is based on the ‘chaos theory’ and we established it very well. I don’t know where it could be confusing. The 10 roles that I enacted are established within 20 minutes of the film’s run. The only thing is one has to be a little attentive. That`s what we were going for.
Q: How do you connect things from 12th century to the present era?
K: Everyone is connected to one another – from men to men, generation to generation. I feel I am linked to the dynasty of emperor Ashoka. Can you say that you have no connection to Alluri Seetharamaraju or Kakatiya?
Typical Kamal response 🙂
and what is this crap about “Chaos Theory” that I am hearing a lot? Talk about dumbing down something. If this is Chaos Theory, then MMKR is probably a better illustration of it
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Bala
June 19, 2008
This prompted me to read your earlier reviews for Anbe Sivam and Virumandi …probably the two best Kamal movies of the decade. Reading it gave me a start.A kamal who was so capable a writer ..has fallen to such depths in 10Avataram.Is it possible that Ravikumar actually ghost-wrote this whole mess taking bits and pieces fromm Kamal’s earlier ..musings 🙂 :)?I wasn’t expecting anything special in terms of direction or acting (Apart from kamal) but I wasn’t expecting this shocking mess either . And (horror of horrors ) even Kamal’s acting was a let down .The giant and the paati actually had me hanging down my head in embarrassment .(to say nothing of the feeble jokes on Bush .And god ! the cancer-ripping bullet funda …I really hope he had meant that for a laugh!).One only hopes he had been sleep walking through this piece of tripe and that he wakes up in time for whatever it is he is going to do next.I have never subscribed to the view that Kamal was this narcissistic actor out to get an ego-massage with every movie of his but with this I am slowly beginning to see the merits of that argument.
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Zero
June 19, 2008
And, this is an excellent piece, Baradwaj. (Of course, I’ve read this earlier too.) Anbe Sivam is a film that I really love, but I also think it’s substantially overrated — like when it’s put in the league of the best films of Kamal the auteur.
Especially, I appreciate the point about how “time just seems to stand still” in the film. Much like the best of Kamal-written films, it’s a very moving film, but, is also a static film — in a formal sense. (Such punning when talking about Anbe Sivam is incidentally quite appropriate considering how punny the film’s dialogue is! The above sentence is itself to be read like “neenga vandhu AB -ve, but be positive.” :)) And, then there’s the flashback part in the middle, in which, as you put it, “Kamal the Writer is being in service of Kamal the Star” among other things. It offsets the narrative arc quite a bit.
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Deepauk M
June 19, 2008
Sagarika: By calling Sagara Sangamam Malsya Avathaaram. I hope you aren’t referring to Balakrishna-garu’s rampant alcoholism at the end of the film. Always under thanni = Malsya Avathaaram 🙂 . Also Kamal doesnt need to resurrect or redeem himself. He would only have to do that if something he wrote, turned out in a manner he didn’t intend. Even in Dasavathaaram everything that was done was calculated, right down to Avatar Singh’s bullet aided tumor removal . The question that everyone will ask after that scene is “Oh Cmon what are the odds?”. But isn’t that the point of the entire movie, what are the odds that any of the other events could happen? I had this image of Kamal with a smug smile on his face while writing this scene and when I saw the scene, all I could think was “very cheeky Mr.Haasan, very cheeky … or should I say throaty”. Its just that a lot of other places the strings he pulled left me underwhelmed as I’ve commented in Rangan’s previous article.
Vijay: I sincerely hope Kamal doesn’t eschew the small-town/city-as-microcosm-of-the-global-village stories like Mahanadhi or Thevar Magan because he revels in those stories. We really shouldn’t count Moondram Pirai because I’m not sure how much of the writing he influenced. Regarding working with other film-makers I dont know how it work simply because of difference in cinematic sensibilities, but I would love to see him work with Jeeva or Surya in sort of handing off the baton role if and when he is ready to hang up the grease paint for a stint behind the camera (and the script demanded it of course) a la Thevar Magan with NT.
Now I want to defend Anbe Sivam, especially the flashback. Like John F.Nash Jr. I might be seeing patterns that dont exist, but bear with me. Right before the flashback begins, Anbarasu loses interest in Nallsivam’s story and we see the flashback solely through Sivam’s eyes. Somehow I see this as more than a plot contrivance to keep Madhavan from knowing that Nalla’s Bala and Arasu’s Sarasu are the same person thus leading to the movie’s “Shane” moment. We are seeing the highly insecure Sivam as he saw himself before the accident, full of life, handlebar mustachioed revolutionary in the prime of his life. He even has that callousness seen so often in the attractive, complete obliviousness to the affections of the more homely Mehrunnisa – so he definitely isn’t perfect. It’s a wistful look at the past for a man who now hides his grotesqueness behind a facade of humor. Hindsight is 20-20 even if is through “thick glasses”. 🙂
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karthik
June 19, 2008
Rangan…..Am joining in the lobby group for Dasa review….Come on !
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Anonymous
June 19, 2008
Who wouldn’t like mumbai express?
I can understand Alavandan, mumbai express is humor all the way.
Everytime there is discussion about kamal’s movies comes up, that mumbai express ends up discussed a dud. it isn’t that experimental or over the top either.
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bart
June 19, 2008
I agree with Vijay when he says Virumandi would’ve been better if someone else had played the lead. Kamal showed out of the character a bit too many times.
Is this becoz the bane of Cinema as a medium is that the creator (writer / director) is given much lesser importance than the star? Yeah, it is a group medium where all need to contribute etc. But stars get paid the most, never heard a writer getting paid so much or even a director to the level of the top star. Especially in southern Cinema – e.g.: Rajni, Chiranjeevi Vs Maniratnam or Shankar. What is SP Muthuraman doing these days? (TV serials…). So the next option is to produce – wherein you make money. Kamal tried this as well. But unfortunately was not all that successful always. So staying behind the screen doesn’t give the money and fame. Hence Kamal overplays or undertakes too many roles?
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Srivatsan
June 19, 2008
Baradwaj,
When are you posting Dasa review?
🙂
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raj
June 19, 2008
let me clarify a few things: there are 2 different strands of peeves I have
1. Baradwaj Rangan doesnt get to review big tamil movies but is forced to do crap hindi movies – like, i guess most industries/companies give freshers the crappiest work – so why cant a newspaper editors have a reviewer hierarchy? Like, hire someone else for doing the Shakalakas and the Thirupachis while leaving Baradwaj to concentrate on the Omkaras, even Om Shanti Oms(crap but big-budget high profile crap) or its alleged tamil equivalent, dasavatharam(big buidget high profile crap) or the odd anjadhe? This is where the Shakalaka reference comes in – not in the context of is dasa worse than shakalaka?
2. How crappy is Dasavatharam compared to the om shanti oms and tashans. Maybe i got it wrong with Sivaji – apologies for that baradwaj – but you did gush about om shanti, main hoon na etc. I am sure you have your reasons but I couldnt help wondering if the general public seems to somehow accept crap from bollywood but dasavatharam being ‘regional’ doesnt work for them though it is probably of the same profile as tashan. I mean, without even seeing Dasa, can it be worse than tashan?
3. I know you did only a one liner for dasa hence it doesnt come across but my anguish was merely that your editor is a muck- and tell him your readers feel so- and cannot see your value and cannot hire a fresher to do the stupid movies and leave you to do the bigger or better ones.
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raj
June 19, 2008
“…they can’t possibly have her review all the crap and then snatch the year’s biggest release away from he”
But BR, there is such a thing called performance-based perks and if your TF critic was that good, people would be buying IE just for her sake – which I am sure doesnt happen – whereas I know atleast one person who used to buy IE for your reviews alone :-). And I dont anymore do that because the mumbai version doesnt carry your reviews. As though they had someone better to do it in Mumbai – hell, why cant they carry your reviews all through India?
So, yes, let your TF critic earn the big films by proving herself to be as good as you? Man, you guys are so behind in terms of modern corporate practices?
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brangan
June 19, 2008
raj: I called OSO a “a barely-okay potboiler that should have been much better…” That’s “gushing?” Wow!
I really liked MHN, and IMO it’s not a crap movie at all. It’s a very good sendup of a genre of filmmaking, and I thought Farah Khan pulled it off beautifully (except towards the end).
And I don’t agree that “general public seems to somehow accept crap from bollywood but dasavatharam being ‘regional’ doesnt work for them.” Tashan bombed pretty much everywhere and from what I hear Dasa is doing extremely well.
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sharath
June 19, 2008
Vijay,
i disagree when you say that Kamal selects Madhavan for his movies based on the friendship that they share. I feel that madhavan is much better than the suryas, ajiths, vijays and even vikram too.
Although he has a soft face, he is always trying to do something different. Apart from Maniratnam, i dont think he has worked with any director of calibre and yet he has some great films to his credit. Even Vikram has been great only in the movies directed by Bala and one can feel that he is not a natural actor when you see Bheema or Maja. However Maddy has an earnestness which makes you like him in whichever movie he acts. I just mean to say that he is sincere in every role which he does and he doesnt bow down to commercial needs. Although ethiree and rendu were successful, he didnt try to cash in upon their success and he tried doing something like yevano oruvan. Which other actor would accept a role in Kannathil Muthamittal which was totally heroine oriented and yet make you feel that the movie would be incomplete without him
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raj
June 19, 2008
and if your TF critic needs the biggies, she can do Kuruvi, Godfather, Bheema etc, cant she ?:-)
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raj
June 19, 2008
and check this out
A) “…anju mahendroo, who at one point dated Gary sobers. Everything somehow links back to Cricket”
and
B) “….boovarahan is krishna avatar because he is dalit and dark and dies with a metal rod hitting his leg, just like krishna died of an arrow on his leg”
Now, why is A making a fanciful connection to Cricket( I am sure the maker wouldnt have even thought about it). Is B a fanciful re-interpretation of what the maker never intended?
What I would think is A has gone into the movie A determined to give it a chance while B has gone into Dasavatharam determined to give it a chance and find something fancifully cool about it.
I dont see a difference in A & B.
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Sagarika
June 20, 2008
Deepauk M: “I hope you aren’t referring to Balakrishna-garu’s rampant alcoholism at the end of the film. Always under thanni = Matsya Avathaaram” – hey, that too, although that wasn’t where I was going with it originally. 🙂 It was more along the lines of brangan’s last para…that Kamal probably needs to go back to the basics — I was trying to tie that to the fact that the Matsya Avatar is the prototype for all avatars, hence back to the basics. Plus the name of the movie helped put it into context (and now your thanni reference…yup, all kinds of concepts being channeled here, subliminally, what can I say?). To me Saagara Sangamam symbolised his best performance, and I mean that literally, not histrionically — I’ve never seen Kamal dance prior, and what a class act he was in that movie: And emotion-without-exhibition first half and emotion-with-all-the-exhibition-in-the-world second half. (I haven’t seen the movie in years though.)
sharath: To your point that Maddy doesn’t bow down to commercial needs: I fell in love with Maddy in Minnale. I’ve really liked every movie of his since (haven’t seen Evano Oruvan yet, though) — yes, even that movie of his with Sada (shot in Malaysia), in which most people found him annoying as hell. So you’ll see me nodding away as you praise him to the skies here, but let me inject this one point though — Didn’t Gautham say to brangan about Pachaikili, “I gave a narration to Madhavan. He said he didn’t want to play the father of a six-year-old….”? Nice to see that Maddy is all-too-human like most of the rest of us. I’ve always imagined it must be drink-your-bitter-medicine hard to resist the commercial bait. To bite or not to bite is the question I believe most people operating in the entertainment biz (who take thier work seriously, that is) ask themselves when they look in the mirror every single day.
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Sagarika
June 20, 2008
p.s: And oh, sharath, I meant “…resist the commercial-compromise” bait.
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Jaiganesh
June 20, 2008
I was almost controlling my tears in the theatre when I saw the magnificient actor trapped inside the 7 foot Kalifulla cage. Whoever put the idea that he needs to be totally unidentifiable in some roles (red herring that H.Sridhar alludes to in his interview) should be hanged in public – success of the movie notwhithstanding.
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Savitri
June 20, 2008
So, Mr.Rangan will not be reviewing Dasavatharam? I have been waiting and looking forward to that ever since it released. I don’t know where this one word judgement of “terrible” appeared, but I do disagree vehemently with it, even if it is Baradwaj Rangan saying so. 🙂 But, after such a dismissive judgement, an elaboration is almost de rigeur.
And, did I understand the earlier comments right, that you are now assigned to review Hindi films only, and not Tamil films? Is this because Hindi films are automatically considered more important than any Tamil film, and so this is some kind of recognition or reward for you having won the National Award for film criticism? This kind of logic boggle my mind. 😦
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sharath
June 20, 2008
Sagarika,
Maddy had already played the dad of a grown up gal in kannathil muthamittal and that movie came much before Pachaikili.
I hated Pachaikili though. FOund it too boring. I guess Maddy must have also found the script boring and since he didnt want to say that directly to Gautam, he must have given the other reason 🙂
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Aditya Pant
June 20, 2008
raj: somehow most of your comments gravitate towards one point!! Everyone seems to be doing gross injustice to ‘regional’ in favour of Bollywood. Whether it’s BR (Bharat Ratna) or BR (Bradwaj Rangan).
🙂
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kamalfan
June 21, 2008
FUCK YOU BARDWAJ RANGAN…….YOU CAN GO TO HELL…….GO SUCK RAJNI’s DICK……….what the fuck is wrong with you??? you give shit movies like Sivaji and Om Shanti Om good ratings…..and now not even a review for Dasavatharam……………GO TO HELL
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brangan
June 21, 2008
Jaiganesh: I feel your pain man, though in my case, it wasn’t tears so much as the urge to shake his shoulders and ask what the hell he was thinking
Savitri: No, I’ve always been the Hindi film critic (much to raj’s angst 🙂 In fact he commented that had I NOT been Hindi film critic, I may not have won the award, but then this year’s critic award has hopefully put out that presumption of his) And I used to put up reviews of Tamil films, when I had more time, and that’s what they’re talking about.
Aditya Pant: Dude, you’re at it again, waving the red flag before the bull. You’re evil, man, pure evil 🙂
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APALA
June 21, 2008
Dear BR:
I think you asked in your review about Kamal’s path here and also he has been overly criticized for being “inaccessible” for the majority of movie going public – you are making the same point. He is trying to keep his “belief” system intact but made sure that the general public can access this one better than Hey! Ram, Mahanadhi, Guna, Alavandhan … the list is long!
The special effects at times is tacky, the make-up sometimes looks plastic – yes, that’s right. But was there any dull moment in the entire 3 hour? I did not think so. And give him some leverage man, HE IS WORKING HARD to make money to PRODUCE “MARUDANAYAGAM”! Kamal needed couple of DASA’s for that.
Even if you do not review, the movie is going to be CALLED A CLASSIC & A TRENDSETTER in a couple of years – look at the B.O results and you will understand why! The people of TN & Andhra have given an UNBELIEVABLE WELCOME to the movie! I am very happy for Kamal and you may find faults with this movie or with the actor – but who cares!!
BTW, I DID NOT SEE MANY OF THE FOLKS THAT “LOVED” Mahanadhi, Hey!Ram etc., during the release of those movies, supporting him or standing up for him!!! They said mostly that those movies did not have any “Entertainment value”!!! Guess what, DASA seems to satisfy the average movie going public and also it gives Kamal the STAR POWER to get finance for his dream project “MARUDANAYAGAM” – I am very happy for that. Period.
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raj
June 21, 2008
BR, I am not going to respond to any of that 🙂
WHo was this year’s critic award winner – some mallu jolna pai? if so, that hardly disproves my point if you remember what I exactly said? Mallu jolna pais are the next biggest group after bollywood fluffy heads to win maximum undeserver national awards 🙂
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rah
June 21, 2008
BR, as I clearly expressed before, I am just astounded at the lack of sensible thinking on the part of your editor. In any profession, the apprentice does the pain stuff and the established are given the perks – I’d have imagined newspaper movie review sections are no dissimilar. I dont know if your comprehension has gone as bad as aditya’s but I am sure if you have not been dumbed down by years of hindi movie watching, you would know that I harbour no counts of ‘injustice’ against you. I merely try tor econcile your views on various films – maybe sub-consciously, you have different standards or expectations when you go into a movie and that shapes your reactions – I think as a writer, you would welcome the challenges – I may be wrong but I ‘d like to believe by questioning your reactions to different movies in different ways, I contribute to your validating your choices and understanding your own mind better 🙂
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raj
June 21, 2008
btw, who got the award for the best director this year
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brangan
June 21, 2008
APALA: Yeah, but I cannot have reactions to a film based on the “majority of movie going public.” I can only react to way it affects ME, and in that respect, I was certainly not part of the target audience for Dasavatharam. (Not to sound a snob and disassociate myself from the vast majority or anything, but you know what I mean, right?)
So yes, I’m happy that one of my favourite heroes has himself a big hit. And if this gives him the power to make that dream project, well, I’ll be the happiest person. But no amount of box office information is enough to change my opinion of (or reaction to) this film.
“you may find faults with this movie or with the actor – but who cares!!” Of course, no one cares. As if I’m deluded enough to believe that a thumbs down from me — a critic who writes for an *English* publication, and whose readership comes mostly from his blog — is going to cause a mega-budget, mega-hero film to collapse 🙂
And whatever you say, I don’t think entertainment is just song and dance and giving people a good time. In a lot of ways, entertainment is “engagement” with the goings-on on the screen, and in that respect, Mahanadhi and Guna and the other films you mentioned are some of the most “entertaining” movies ever.
raj: As shocking as it may seem, Madhur Bhandarkar… for Traffic Signal!!!
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raj
June 21, 2008
br, i just found that out. And there are 2 points I wish to make
1. Madhur Bhandarkar – ha!ha! Just goes to prove my point about bollywood getting undeserved awards left, right and centre
2. I also found that he was actually a joint-winner with the director of the mallu best movie winner. This proves the naueseating reach and PR-strength of bollywood. By hyping out the bollywood winner, it is even drowned out that he is the co-winner not outright.
They make some very good films, thanks to the financial resources they have(despite their core audience being probably the most air-headed in the country), but Bollywood with its mega-PR and you-scratch-my-back_I-yours(well, all movie people do that, including the kamals and rajnis and chirus but bollywood guys are succesful at pushing themselves ahead of the merit-queue – so just like americans, they ought to be hated more 🙂 ) .
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Aditya Pant
June 21, 2008
raj: Just a very minor correction(possibly inconsequential to your arguments). Madhur Bhandarkar was the sole winner of Best director. See here:
Click to access 54th_nfa.pdf
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Savitri
June 21, 2008
Thanks for clarifying about your film reviewing duties, Mr.Rangan. It is my loss that you won’t review Dasavatharam.
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raj
June 21, 2008
BR, “And whatever you say, I don’t think entertainment is just song and dance and giving people a good time”
Are you implying that that’s what Dasavatharam was? Song+dance+fights?
I will watch it and then take this one up:-)
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APALA
June 21, 2008
Dear BR:
I did not mean to say that your opinion does not matter – maybe to the audience but it MATTERS to me, as I have great regards for your view.
I was fed up with our “engaging” audience for being totally hypocritical, always turning their back on Kamal’s meaningful and engaging cinema comes along – but when Kamal tries something else, they would bring those references!!!
And really irritated me seeing these kinds of comments all over the web and print media. That’s all.
But, I respect you man, because I know you are one of those audience who “engage” with your movies – just like me.
As I said, I am happy for Kamal for having a massive hit in DASA and I hope for him to get the money as I am waiting for his “Marudanayagam”!
Peace, Buddy!
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Srivatsan
June 22, 2008
Baradwaj,
Did you see the movie anyway?. You would have noticed a scene where he has a plus mark (bandage) over his forehead – wish he had put some more thoughts like that on the film itself 🙂
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Jaiganesh
June 22, 2008
The logic that people criticising Dasa were people who shrugged the carpet out of kamal’s feet during mahanadhi and guna is one tonne load of bull crap. Mahanadhi and Guna were reviewed ravely by critics and cinephiles while the mass with whom you are enjoying dasa’s success crapped them. To tell the truth, Critics, intellectuals, pseudo intellectuals etc., tried their level best to make Anbe Sivam a success by praising and writing rave reviews It is the fans of the ‘ulaga nayagan’ and mass who thought that they wmiht as well sit through a crappy movie called samy made the film fail.
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Kiruba
June 22, 2008
Amidst all this heated discussion, brangan, did you manage to catch Dasa a second time? Or had you decided against doing that?
Without my baggage of expectations this time, the film looked and felt a lot better. yes, the make ups and CGs still looked as unreal and the plot and Asin as annoying as the first time, but then, should i say, I did manage to reason out why they seemed so?! That made all the difference.
And do you really mean your words when you say that Dasa is just song and dance and giving people a good time? That’s too sweeping a statement, I think.
Yes, it does all this through its cheap thrills, but don’t you think it still manages to preserve some sort of a soul for itself?
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brangan
June 22, 2008
Kiruba: That wasn’t a reference to Dasavatharam. APALA was talking about the “average folks” saying Hey Ram etc. didn’t have entertainment value, and I just said (IMO) entertainment isn’t just song and dance and fights, but engagement. Ergo, Hey Ram is an entertainment too.
No, my reaction was based on a one-time watch. With Kamal and Mani movies, I’d have completed 2-3 viewings within a week, but I’m strangely disinclined to see this one again. Though I know I’ll HAVE to, at some point, if only to figure out why the first time viewing was such a disaster.
“Without my baggage of expectations this time, the film looked and felt a lot better” Again, is this really the concession we want to give to a talent like Kamal? Hasn’t he proved time and again that he’s capable of surpassing our best expectations (if not through the entire film, then at least in parts of it)? I don’t know man…
I feel that’s like saying, “don’t expect much, and Thiruda Thiruda will end up watchable.” If I want to watch a Mani Ratnam lark, I’d watch IT or AN, which you don’t expect much out of (due to the fluffy kind of movies they are) and yet they surpass even those minimal expectations — not something like TT, which is a disaster.
Again, don’t pounce on me that Dasa is nothing like TT. This is just a comparison of two relatively lighter attempts by two filmmakers who’ve made benchmark “light entertainment” otherwise.
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raj
June 23, 2008
I saw it, yay! Altlast, and atleast, I can see where BR’s ‘terrible’ comes from :-).
But it isnt ‘terrible’ in the way a kuruvi or (wink!wink!) even a om shanti om is. It is perhaps ‘terrible’ in the way Main hoon na was. But that , though I cannot condone, I think BR will or has already in the latter’s case 🙂
Well, BR, maybe you have different expectations from Kamal than from Farah Khan. But if you can buy the outrageous set-ups in that movie as ‘spoof’, why not the cancer gig in Dasa as spoof? Infact, if you watched close enough, he did spell it out – noted Avtar Singh’s introduction where he yaps about “aaru kodi aandavargal, ennai vaazha vaitha tamizhangathai marakka matten”.? Who do you think that is a nod to? And once you realise who it is a nod to, do you realise that there is a joke on that person about bullets etc.? Now, could we read it as a cheeky jibe on superstar? If I bought into it, I could. I didnt but then, I am just being consistent – I couldnt buy into MHN’s gags because I couldnt buy into the premise. But those who bought into MHN’s premise, if you can give Kamal a concession and buy into HIS premise, you might find Dasa an enjoyable ride. It is just about consistency.
And I also noticed that this is sort of Kamal’s own Neengal Kettavai. While Balu Mahendra’s version of what he thought the audience wanted was a gross, direct insult which the audience understood was an insult, Kamal has merrily got away with a stronger, deeper insult to the audience (if you notice closely, several times he pisses at the audience like “I know this is crass but this is what you would like so take it” – and the movie stops and actually spells it out – that it is pissing on the mass that jaiganes is spitting bile on – for the more perceptive among the audience. If I could spot such moments, with my limited appreciation of cinema as a whole, I am sure BR could spot many more such stuff from this movie if he gives it half the engagement he gives MHN or OSO). The point is he has succesfully pulled it off on this mass without them even realising that they are being spit upon. Havign said that, the movie has certainly enough moments of intelligence to keep the viewer engaged. The 12th century part alone was worth forgiving the rest of the movie for(in terms of execution).
BR, I understand it is terrible if you watch it from the POV you watched it. I just wanted to say give it a second chance and give it the same chance that you gave MHN(ie) open mind, and it would not be an inferior product when you watch with that view.
And I say this as an offspring of a certified kamal-hater who wouldnt even deign to watch Nayagan or He ram. If anything I have been anti-Kamal(thanks to parental influence) through my formative years and dont buy into the ulaga nayagan crap.It is not ‘normal’ for me to defend Kamal.
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raj
June 23, 2008
And IT, I’d like to ‘get’ it. I cant sit through 5 minutes of that movie without cringing. I am sure it is not the movie that your fans would want you to write about, but I wouldnt mind actually being pointed out by you or ANYONE on whats so great, nee, even passable about that movie! I’d rather TT anyday than IT.
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Jaiganesh
June 24, 2008
@raj!!
Main Hoon Naa never asks the viewer to be serious about it.
Whereas, Dasa, right at the outset asks the viewer, forcefully educates the viewer about butterfly thery/ dragon fly theory et al. So you sit up expecting a serious movie – not a silly spoof even though one walks into the theatre expecting a Kamal ‘entertainer’ (‘not enthraller’). And after that to see an amazing shawshank redemption kinda shot over temple o chidambaram – adds more interest. Then one witnesses napolean, asin. ‘sollungo mappillai’. Then it is downhill from there with occasional bumps against Balram Naidu. Main hoon naa can afford to be inconsistent because it is a spoof and it is written all over it. Dasa begins as a thriller and to thrill it does not. If Michael Madhana Kama Rajan was “interesting confusion”, Dasavatharam is at best “Confused Interest”.
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raj
June 24, 2008
Jai, that ‘never’ in your first sentence itself should be mostly. It does take itself seriously for most of the second half. MHN is almost philips super ten with better production values and a superstar in the cast. Maybe because of watching umpteen episodes of Super 10 and lollu sabha has made me immune to ‘parody’ and referential loops on past cinema.
Is the problem that Dasa doesnt fall into any genre? Should it? To me, does it entertain? yes, mostly. Cheesy yes at places – ursavar murthy-a apdiye ennamo cricket-ball maadhiri thookki pottu catch pidikkarango – but dont we suspend disbelief for speed kinda movies? Then dont say Speed didnt play gags, or chaos theorise etc. Whats wrong with hollywoodthrillerwannabe-marries-pseudo-science-marries-cheesy-attempt-at-10-roles as long as it entertains. Yes its no classic but if I want to watch a masala movie, i’d rather dasa than Gilli, dhool etc. Unconnected serious first episode-a? So what? There is a loose connection to be made even there and think about than your average masala movie.With all its imperfections, I’d take this over atrocious stuff like Dhill, Gilli etc.
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Jaiganesh
June 24, 2008
raj,
Intentions are not my concern.
He might want to take chaos theory into a masala screenplay. I always give him benefit of doubt for that. What i will not be able to get over is the quality of the product. The same producer made Anniyan – made at a much cheaper budget. Inspite of all shortcomings, every frame of anniyan was great – palichunnu, rich aa irundhadhu. In Dasa – everything was SHODDY. It was like insulting on a mass scale. The feeling was similar to that of seein JKB lying in footpath – drunk in Sindhu Bhairavi. Maha kalaignan – reduced to cheap tricks in trying to compete with thirupaachi, sivakasi and dhill. One hope is Kamal cannot hit a deeper rock bottom than this.
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SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
June 24, 2008
Saw Dasa, finally!
Spoilers ahead!!
Was ok. Some parts were funny like when the patti says her bladder is full and Kamal says spit out of the window prompting her to say “enna olararaan”. Found Asin annoying as hell. She just kept screaming perumal perumal and I wondered why the hell Kamal wouldn’t take out the damn kirumi and give the Perumal back to her so she could shut up and get lost. Graphics konjham sad at the end…looked like koovam water when it rose up to the mosque. Was cringing at the beginning when they put hooks in his skin…ouch! How did they do that? It looked so real. Fletcher was based on terminator wasn’t he? Simply indestructible no matter where he fell from or what fell on him. Makeup in parts also konjham sad, but his Naidu was super. Seri, tell me, they found that idol with the skeleton on it after the Tsunami, right? What was the link up? Is the connection supposed to be that idol submerge aanadhu nale, tectonic plates clicked much later and caused the tsunami that finally did away with the kirumi? And why oh why did the man put it in his mouth? Didn’t he know what it was capable of doing to him? Loosu! Am with the rest…Dasa review pannu man. Don’t do the whole thing if you don’t have time. Do a + and – list with points and why. After all, if you have time to read through comments and answer, you can find 10 mins to do that methinks! :))
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kiruba
June 25, 2008
Brangan, yes, I’ve done it again and am happy to announce I’ve made my peace with Dasa and, with Kamal. (the second is more important to me)
Is 10A really a light/lighter film? Yes, Kamal himself said it is not high brow stuff. But, if I remember correctly, he said something of this sort even on the eve of Hey Ram’s release. Obviously Dasa seems to be a simple, straight thriller and appears too cliched/contrived, but isn’t this appearance so deceptive, a ploy to draw the masses into the theatres? (Just like the ten avathars)
Come on, which mainstream film in Tamil (India?) has dared to take on the science religion debate (mind you, it’s not just a tirade against religion – that may have happened in many of our films) head on and carry it as a major theme throughout (not just through the exchanges betn Asin /Kamal)
I see the film as this dialogue betn blind faith and reasoning, similar to that betn communism and free markets in AS. (Even the plot structure has some similarities, – two characters thrown together by circumstances, a whole lot of journeying and quarreling, a twist in the tale at last..) There is a mind- boggling (at times exasperating) amount of symbolism here – some of which is too obvious and some not. However Kamal shows an amazing clarity of thought in this debate, (you’d probably expect him to take science’s side given his atheist leanings, but he doesn’t!) as revealed by his climactic master stroke, just as the lead pair are falling in love. And there lies the film’s other major theme (this simple truism abt the scheme of things and man’s condition in universe).
There are still more minor themes in the film, some of which really stick well and some just happen to be there. All this in a packaging palatable to regular consumers.
What happens with these two competing interests? Kamal’s urge to make things complex and the audience’s consumption of pulp? It doesn’t exactly meet with AS’s fate – the ending takes away most of my misgivings abt 10A – but falls much short of being a masterpiece. Yet Bangan, don’t you think this is the most complex product from Kamal in some sense?
Yes, if you wanted a slick light film, 10A is terribly disappointing.
Yes,if you want your films to be simple, dislike any sort of indulgence from the filmmaker, and want Kamal to turn back to the ‘less is more’ type of films then you should dislike 10A for all its philosophical meanderings.
Again if you think Kamal should avoid all image trappings, 10A is disheartening to say the least.
And all of the above were part of my baggage of expectations abt 10A, Brangan (and I realise, except may be for the last of these, all the others are terribly unjust) and they resulted in me missing all this inner charm of the film. That’s why I said I was happy to shed off this baggage and didn’t mean setting your standards low.
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Sagarika
June 25, 2008
raj: There’s a point waiting to be made about your charge that brangan reads too much into movies, into comments, heck into pretty much everything he sets his sights on. Since no one else seems to be taking the trouble, I choose to rise to the occasion. 🙂 Can I ask, what else is this God-given toothbrush called imagination for if not to use it on the brain (at least once in a while) to prevent build up of mental plaque?
I suspect brangan’s tired of pushing his point, time and again, thru what perhaps seems to him (and I nod in agreement) to be an impregnable fortress of resistance. That a movie (or a piece of writing, music, whatever) to him is as much about what the creator conceives as what he (brangan) perceives. It’s a multi-way engagement (not “my way or the highway” as you seem to suggest) and there are NO definitive rules (except the ones you make up as you go). Even folks like Walter Murch — who’ve successfully shaped epics like Godfather, Touch of Evil, The English Patient, Apocalypse Now — agree on the fact that ambiguity in an art form is ABSOLUTELY necessary, just so people can take away from it what they want. Murch once said to Ondaatje (and I quote) “..there’s another stage, beyond the finished film: when the audience views it. You want the audience to be co-conspirators in the creation of this work, just as much as the editor or the mixers or the cameraman or the actors are. If by some chemistry you actually did remove all ambiguity in the final mix — even though it had been ambiguous up to that point — I think you would do the film a disservice.
Even though [film] is a mass medium, it’s those individual reactions that make each person feel the film is speaking to him or her. The fantastic thing about the process is that they actually see their own version on the screen. They would swear that they saw it, but in fact it wasn’t there. Enough was there so they completed it in their own way, but as it’s happening, they don’t stop to think ‘Oh, that’s just me completing it.’…How does this happen? It can only be because the film is ambiguous in the right places and draws something out of you that comes from your own experience. And then you see it on screen and think: ‘Only I know that, so the film must be made for me!'”
So my point is, doesn’t it behoove us to at least acknowledge if not appreciate unique perspectives in this era of death-by-drivel (even if the latter is what genrally resonates with the majority)? Instead of trying to get right into the middle of his game and tweaking his own personal Rules of Engagement for him, I think we should simply let brangan be. God forbid someone should try to “help” him reconcile his views, help him “understand his own mind better”…in short, try to “teach” him how to think for himself, for that would surely be the beginning of his Apocalypse Now, IMO.
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brangan
June 25, 2008
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed: Traitor! 🙂 Though let me put on record how impressed I am by the way you’ve finally managed to sneak into the blog. That too, in a way that I can never yell at you for. Clearly all that Harry Potter reading has paid off 🙂
kiruba: Dude, at the end of the day, it’s just a movie 🙂
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SheWhoMustNotBeNamed
June 25, 2008
Appadi!!! Vashishtar vaayala Brahmarishi! :))
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Kiruba
June 25, 2008
Yes, Yes, Yes. At the end of the day, it’s just a movie whatever be its pretentions/intentions. Period.
Meanwhile what is happening to the other biggie release of July 13th? No plans for that too?
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KayKay
June 27, 2008
Dear Mr.B, while completely respecting your view points, even if I, like the majority here, are forced to accept a succinct one word verdict as opposed to your usual erudite analysis, I just wanted to say, that having watched the movie, what struck me was, that in this huge Creative Void where most Tamil movies comfortably nestle in, Dasa dares to posit ideas and concepts in what is essentially a long chase movie firmly shackled to the tropes of a masala entertainer.
And while the Boxing Day Tsunami of 2004 has been crudely inserted as a punchline in quite a few movies, and even disgustingly shoehorned into a song lyric in one, Dasa dares to climax in the actual event, with mile high waves not only washing people and property away, but tying up plot threads, inter connecting others and bridging a 12th century Shaivite Vs Vaishnavite discourse to 21st century musings on Religion, Science and Causality.It’s an oasis of ideas in a parched Cine Landscape known for its paucity of it.
Shouldn’t the effort at least deserve some measure of kudos?
My own rambling are here:
http://tomesflicks.blogspot.com/2008/06/dasavatharam.html
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brangan
June 27, 2008
KayKay: I guess you missed the earlier comment where I said I wasn’t doing a review but a piece for a magazine. The only problem: by the time it comes out, it won’t be as “hot” as an instant review, but I just couldn’t bring myself to write TWO stories on the film 🙂
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Dan
July 2, 2008
I completely agree with Kay Kay. Dasa is a movie with depth in story and something Tamil movies are not used to. It has a lot more subtlety in it that Kamal will never accept in an interview. After all, he needs to find a balance between the “mediocre” movie-goers and the “thinking” crowed. I guess he has done that with Dasa.
I believe most of the critics (online) and paper didn’t get the storyline completely.
Check out my review at http://www.mouthshut.com/review/Dasavatharam-145087-1.html
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Dan
July 2, 2008
BR: I do agree some of your perceptions about Kamal in the article you wrote. You have expressed exactly what i thought of him after watching Virumaandi.
Also, I read another comment about how Mahanadhi, Hey Ram or Anbe Sivam were never touted as “entertaining”. The trend I see with Kamal movies is that it grows on you and sometimes years ahead (like how KB’s movie were)
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Sridhar
July 9, 2008
Dear BR,
Are you staying away from writing a full fledged review of Dasa?
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raj
July 9, 2008
“…Instead of trying to get right into the middle of his game and tweaking his own personal Rules of Engagement for him, I think we should simply let brangan be. God forbid someone should try to “help” him reconcile his views, help him “understand his own mind better”…in short, try to “teach” him how to think for himself, for that would surely be the beginning of his Apocalypse Now, IMO.
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Sagarika, I disagree. Unlike most other critics, Baradwaj Rangan is also a writer. Therefore, his reviews are individual pieces of art themselves that I can (as per your own erudite discussion above) interpret and take away what I want to. Take it as my review of baradwaj’s product.Product is too disagreeable a word for baradwaj’s reviews. I should say creations.
I am recording that here. If you dont like it, just throw it to your recycle bin, maybe?
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Sagarika
July 11, 2008
raj: Hey, your point is well taken. Why would I cast it into my recycle bin? I’d like to at least “imagine” that I have a healthy respect for various points of view. 🙂
And brangan rightly covers for you (chiming in, with his signature eloquence, on the JTYJN comments thread) — “If you think about it, raj is reacting to my interpretation of the film. And you guys are reacting to his interpretation of my interpretation of the film. Now, if someone takes to decoding your comments (i.e. your interpretation of raj’s interpretation of my interpretation of the film), we could set up some kind of neverending chain of interpretation.”
There is no end to such “intellectualistics” (the fact that we have a right to engage in it and brangan has a higher-than-normal tolerance level for it, notwithstanding).
At the end of the day, when you toss this coin of “interpretation” up in the air, it ever-so-often tends to land on its flip side, “misinterpretation” – something each of has has to simply acknowledge and move on, no?
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Sagarika
July 11, 2008
P.S: And oh, raj, you do realize the many many ways this statement can be “interpreted,” right? “Unlike most other critics, Baradwaj Rangan is also a writer.”
Here’s my interpretation: OMG, what’s our country coming to? There is only ONE critic who can actually WRITE? And this, I bet you, is where we will (ah, finally!) see eye to eye. 🙂
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raj
July 11, 2008
Sagarika, points taken and moving on is done.
That ‘most’ was a red herring. Actually, I should have said ‘every’. But I guess you got the point anyway.
While your interpretation is bulls-eye, I prefer to look at it as half-full glass (i.e) TG(Thank God), we have atleast one critic who can actually WRITE!
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raj
July 11, 2008
and BR, didnt I put a comment on other ‘film critics’? Do you think they will be offended with you if you publish it? C’mon, it is just my opinion on them. Whats the harm if they get to know it through your site.
I’ll record here that I had to post this follow-up to get that nasty comment on them posted here and BR was so sweet that he refused to put a denigratory word on his fellow-critics at first – even though it is just opinion of a random blog-commenter!
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Sagarika
July 15, 2008
raj: “C’mon, it is just my opinion on them. Whats the harm if they get to know it through your site.”
Here’s my *interpretation* of the silent treatment you’re getting on this one. We’re at the mercy of the moderator for a reason. And as with all moderated sites, what comes thru is often what’s condoned and what’s wrong with brangan not wanting to have anything to do with people’s (mis?)perceptions of his peers, for good or bad? There’s a word for it, and I think it’s called “professionalism.”
It’s not like he’s policing for political correctness ALL THE TIME (see how he lets thru one kamalfan’s profoundly profane sentiment up above) — ONLY when someone else’s reputation (not his own) is at stake. Now why would that be unacceptable for Mr. Cup-Half-Full? (by your own admission above!) — Aren’t you getting your “private audience” with the guy, anyway? And at the end of the day, isn’t that far more meaningful than the chance to simply blurt your innermost thoughts onto the blogosphere (and achieve what)? Just a morsel to chew on. 🙂
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raj
October 7, 2008
sagarika, you are not even around so I am not sure responding now would help. But “achieve what”? What do I achieve by commenting here anyway? Thats not even, like, part of my objectives, when I visit this site:-)
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abvblogger
August 28, 2014
And the piece is still relevant after five more years! I wonder what he would be cast as today, if he dropped all the makeup fuelled transformations, multiple-roles in a movie and other gimmicky stuff. If he just acted, and didn’t get to write his role. What would today’s directors see him as and how would they use his talent?
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Srinivas R
May 4, 2015
” has shut himself in a cocoon of his own creative juices for far too long now. He needs stronger collaborators”
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keshavr110592
November 7, 2018
This article has aged so well. Still so relevant.
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Hariprasad
October 3, 2019
Reading this only now. Excellent essay, to say the least. As others have pointed out, it has stood the test of time.
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Voldemort
November 7, 2020
Happy Birthday to the Alwarpettai Andavar! How ironic to call a self proclaimed athesit Andavar.
It’s sad that everything written here holds good even today. Hope Once upon a time there was a ghost turns out well.
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Satya
November 7, 2020
How ironic to call a self proclaimed athesit Andavar.
Well, Kamal wrote ‘Anbe Sivam’ which means Love is God. Fans’ love made him God. Now, what is ironic here?
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Aisha
June 4, 2022
Agree with the past commenters (over almost 20 years!!) who noted how well this article aged with time. Was definitely interesting to read this after your review of Vikram, in which Kamal seems to have finally found a rhythm with his writing.
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