Thoughts on stars, those people who keep making us go to the theatres even if, sometimes, we wish better sense had prevailed.
Why is Vedalam, Ajith’s Deepavali release, doing such boffo business at the Tamil Nadu box office? A lot of people have asked me this question, including a Delhi-based journalist who’s doing a story on the film and wanted to know: The movie is a disaster – in storytelling, acting, aesthetics and music. How has this masala genre as the template for heroism and mythmaking survived in the 20th century…? I don’t know if I have the answer. If we knew why films worked, there would be no flops. But yes, the extent of Vedalam’s success is surprising, given that it has terrible comedy, a romantic track that appears to exist simply because you cannot have a film without a heroine (the hero barely looks at her in that way), and the villains have basically been instructed to act like gorillas after the zookeeper forgot their feed. And yet, something keeps us watching, and that something, I think, is the star. He’s the feed bag for the otherwise starved audience.
Let’s extend that culinary metaphor. The thing that makes a star a star is that secret (or sometimes, not-so-secret) sauce he or she spices up the screen with. With Vijay and Shahid Kapoor, it’s the way they move. Many actors are good dancers, but when they dance, you hear them say, “I can execute these steps.” With these two, you hear, “Look at me be.” They don’t dance. They… flow. And watching this can sometimes be enough. No one seemed to like R… Rajkumar, but the exuberance of the song sequences left me with a high I couldn’t shake off for days. I don’t trust people who say they enjoy films only if there’s a “script,” or if it “makes sense.” With a certain kind of movie, yes, we expect all that – but there are films that engage us in other ways. When a star is in his element, when Vijay cuts loose the way he does in the Karigalan number in Vettaikaaran, it’s like the sun has been replaced by a disco ball. Suddenly we realise how gloom-dispelling, how life-sustaining this stuff is, that trashy pleasures are a big, big part of why we go to the movies.
But what about other aspects of performance, you ask? But a star is not required to be the on-screen answer to a multivitamin tablet, an A-Z repository of talent. That’s an actor’s job. It’s the actor who’s obligated to demonstrate his prowess at several levels. He must laugh. He must cry. He must do everything Kamal Haasan can do. Now there’s an interesting case – an actor who’s also a star. And also a writer canny enough to give his fans the actor-star they come to see. His latest film, Thoongavanam, has an unconvincing moment where the tough cop he plays breaks down. See Kamal as just an actor, and you’ll find this to be uncharacteristic behaviour for a character toughened by years of service – but as a star, you can’t be too subtle. Your fans expect these emotionally charged moments where they can say, “Wow, what a great actor he is!” That’s what’s in the feed bag. My favourite Kamal Haasan moment in recent years is when his effeminate dancer in Vishwaroopam transforms, in a heartbeat, into a raging warrior. You’ve seen the actor thus far. Now we see the star. But wait, wasn’t the actor a false front as per the script – in other words, weren’t we always watching the star? Or is the measure of this star how far out on a limb he goes as an actor?
You could tie yourself up in knots deconstructing this scene, as also the one in Enthiran, where Evil Rajinikanth sniffs out and captures Good Rajinikanth, who’s in hiding as part of the former’s army. But what’s happening on screen is just the appetiser. For the main course, dig deeper. Evil Rajinikanth is the persona that we saw early on in the actor’s career, the thrilling bad guy who was gradually replaced – due to the compulsions of, yes, stardom – by the duller do-gooder Rajinikanth, and here’s the revenge. Idhu eppidi irukku? These are quintessential star moments, which allow us to go beyond the script and “converse” with star personas that have evolved over the years. Does Ajith, who’s being compared to Rajinikanth after Vedalam’s success, have this kind of stardom yet? Maybe. Maybe not. It’s easier to look back on a star than to comment on him mid-creation. But with the shades of grey he’s able to accommodate in his characters, he’s at least a bracing change from other bland heroes whose stardom is a trap, confining them in cocoons of cloying virtue.
But sometimes, we become moralists and insist on virtue. When I posted a review of Prem Ratan Dhan Payo, a friend commented, “I don’t understand how a convicted murderer still gets to be leading man.” It’s terrible and perhaps points to a huge character flaw in me, but maybe some of us find it easier to separate the real and make-believe worlds, the way we do with Woody Allen and Roman Polanski? Because on screen, Salman Khan is a star – his USP is an endearing brattishness, abetted, no doubt, by his off-screen status of an unattached man who still lives with his parents. He’s the boy who never grew up. And Shah Rukh? He was a zillion-watt star in the Kabhi Khushi Khabhie Gham days, when he resurrected the s-s-s-swooning romantic hero for the Internet generation. You weren’t sure if he was going to carve your name in blood or carve you up. Then there’s Aamir, who’s single-handedly positioned himself as the biggest star-brand since Amitabh Bachchan. Quality, hard work, reliability – these may sound like jottings from a 1923 Boy Scout’s manual, but Aamir Khan has fashioned these resolutely unglamorous traits into a survival kit for stardom.
What about heroines? Sridevi was once called the female Bachchan (and later, I think Madhuri Dixit was too) – no further acknowledgement of stardom is necessary. But as much as I enjoy some of their performances, they put too much of themselves out there. I preferred Rekha, who had more mystique. She was the thing you saw when you peered into a deep well on a moonless night. As for today’s actresses, they may be stars in terms of box-office value (Nayanthara, who’s apparently installed a hit-manufacturing unit in her backyard), and there are certainly some good performers, but they aren’t unique enough, the sauce isn’t special enough. Then again, you may differ. Because tastes differ. I’ve never understood the Hema Malini phenomenon, for instance. Very limited performer. A dazzler in her Johny Mera Naam days, but not so much later. And yet, she kept shining. What, I keep wondering, was the secret sauce? Her innate Indianness, perhaps? Sometimes, even this unknowability is the stamp of a star.
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venkatesh
November 21, 2015
Two of these are not like the others, Aamir, SRK, Vijay, Ajith, Salman Bhai, AB in his prime or of course the king himself – Rajni. I posit that Aamir and SRK are not the same as the others. There is no in-built audience for them that will watch whatever they dish out. Even in his prime SRK ‘s bad films got no opening, contrast that with Lingaa.
The film is a disaster by all accounts however in terms of collections (not ROI) it has one of the largest collections of the year. I think that is one clear yardstick for the definition of a star.
Additionally, this seems to be something that is only a South Indian (primarily Tamil and Telugu) phenomenon. You dont find this in the North, not any more. Salman Khan is of course primarily following a playbook from the South. I wonder why though ?
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brangan
November 21, 2015
venkatesh: I’m not really ranking or comparing these stars. This is just a reflection on what various people bring to the table, and on stardom etc.
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Madan
November 21, 2015
Even in his prime SRK ‘s bad films got no opening
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rajandr
November 21, 2015
I don’t understand how come a man who was complicit in genocide of Muslims in Gujarat 2002 riots and was denied visa by US precisely for this reason become to be “elected” by people of this country to rule as PM. If such a person can be believed to be a man with magical powers and people madly vote for him what’s it after all to spend 150 ₹ and watch a hero’s movie.
Forgot Salaman or any other actors with criminal background acting in movies. If anyone has money they can make movie and act themselves as hero. Absolutely no skill whatsoever required to be a cinema hero in India. Also people have choice to see or not. But they see them inspite of their personal fallacies. By the way who are our current starts. The lucky sperm of yesteryear stars.
We accept without any complaint dynasty in cinema whereas make a big hue and cry in politics.
Life is full of shades of grey. Not the purist point of view some sections tend to see with.
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Durai
November 21, 2015
A star doesn’t have to add nuance necessarily. Typical example is Vedalam, star functions to not to make it believable as a character but to buy claps. That’s the reason why the transformation scene comes off like a parody. Part of being a actor-star is to make reasons for a transformation or break up. Be it trained killer in undercover posing as dancer in Vishwaroopam. Or the breakdown in Thoongavanam because the character is sloppy in his makeup, and is being tested to his limits from the wound in the morning, wound area getting hit accidentally by the door and to his sloppiness in letting his gun drop deeper. An actor, not a star, could put a whole different set of expressions here, but not Raghavan in VV or Suyambu in PN, you have to back it up with reasons. That’s the remarkable thing about Kamal, the idea to catalogue different characters in to his resume, wanting to be character actor cum star in a heavily mainstream star vechile crazy industry.
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brangan
November 21, 2015
rajandr: “lucky sperm of yesteryear stars”
Fantastic phrase. Thanks.
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திருமலை
November 21, 2015
ரஜினி தன்னை மக்களுக்கு பிடிக்க வேண்டும் என சினிமா செய்தார்..கமல் சினிமாவை மக்களுக்கு பிடிக்க வேண்டும்என செய்கிறார்… சத்தியமாக சொல்கிறேன் ரஜினி அஜித் விஜய்னு பேசிக்கலாம் கமல விட்டுடுங்க. இந்த ரேஸெல்லாம் விட்டு அவர் ஒதுங்கி ரொம்ப நாள் ஆகுது… ரஜினி கமல் என்ற ஒப்புமை மிக அபத்தம்.
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Ananthakrishnan Suresh
November 21, 2015
Liked the title!!!
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ThouShaltNot
November 21, 2015
why is Vedalam, Ajith’s Deepavali release, doing such boffo business at the Tamil Nadu box office?
Going by the responses of the die-hard fans on your other thread, here is the recipe I think
In real life, Ajith is apparently a mensch (the male equivalent of the reel life tamil heroine who “helps people cross streets” and performs random acts of heart stopping goodness). Also, it appears when publicity knocks on his door, he doesn’t grab it, instead shoos it away.
In movies, Ajith is the unmensch, mouthing lines with a high coolness quotient – “Naan Kaedu kettavan”, “Naan ayOgyan” or “Naanae enna namba maataen” (same lines if said by a villain would be yawn-inducing) – that make the audience and the fans go “O…M…G, did he really say that?!” leaving that incredulous thought endlessly recirculating in their heads.
Star stays MIA for extended periods, pre-movie-release, post-movie-release and in-between
Doesn’t hurt if yesteryear dimwits (with idlis named after) tweet “thalaivaa, nee engaeyO pOyita” after watching the movie for free (avar engaeyum pOla, chennaila “thalai”maravaa irukkaaru)
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Anuja Chandramouli
November 21, 2015
A very interesting read this. Loved all your observations particularly the one about the grunting villains of Vedalam. Regarding the Salman Khan conundrum I was reminded of the Fatty Arbuckle case. He was a silent film superstar and a beloved comedienne who mentored Buster Keaton and Charlie Chaplin. But it all went up in smoke when he was charged with the rape and murder of Virginia Rappe. The actor was tried three times and finally acquitted but he was blacklisted by Hollywood and enraged fans who turned on him. The man’s career was ruined because his image as a funny man was irreparably destroyed for the prosecuting council had succeeded in driving home the image of an overweight man who had forced himself on a slight girl, pinning her down and causing the bladder to rupture.
Charlie Sheen is another bratty bad boy who comes to mind. His career suffered many hits thanks to his problems with substance abuse, legal issues and girl trouble but he withstood it all. However, it remains to be seen whether the quintessential problem child will survive the media maelstrom generated by his revelation that he has tested positive for HIV.
Of course the likes of Polanski and Allen have survived the negative publicity brought on by the grave allegations against them and are going strong but perhaps like the indefinable something that is star quality there is a certain X factor or fickle fate that determines who can get away scot free with moral infractions and who is made to pay for petty sins. It could explain why a mass murderer goes on to become the President or a convicted murdered who remains a superstar and why a guy who borrowed a few lousy bucks opts to kill himself but not before doing away with his entire family or a petty thief has his arm chopped off for his error in judgement.
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Anuja Chandramouli
November 21, 2015
I have also wondered about the Ajith Kumar phenomenon and how crazy not just your average fan is about him but even celebs like STR, Jay et al who are unabashed Thala loving nuts. Personally, I think his off-screen persona has contributed more to his lustre than extraordinary acting prowess. Perhaps folks adore his dare – devilry, love for speed that has seen him ruin his health, and high – risk decision making (like the time he decided to take a break from acting and race cars instead or when he sweetly requested a head of state to instruct his followers not to force actors into canvassing votes for the ruling party.)
The sheer ballsiness of the actor is evident in the roles he takes up whether it was an effeminate classical dancer in Varalaru or the amoral villain in Mankatha which he determinedly saw through to the end without some lame, redemption scene in the last reel (like Vijay’s character in Azhagiya Tamizh Magan.) He may not be a histrionic heavyweight but there is a certain endearing honesty which he brings to his performances especially when the role is within his comfort zone (Vaali, Villain) and that is his strength, I suppose.
Whee! What fun! Lets dissect all the stars on our firmament one by one!
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MANK
November 21, 2015
I’ve never understood the Hema Malini phenomenon, for instance. Very limited performer. A dazzler in her Johny Mera Naam days, but not so much later
Brangan, I diverge a little with you here. sure she did not have a great range. She couldn’t handle comedy at all for instance. But I was watching some of her old movies recently like, Lal patthar, Khushbhoo meera, ek chadar maili si etc.. and I thought this was a damn good dramatic actress. she did embarrass herself when she tried to over each too much like in Razia sultan. But She really doesn’t deserve the rap of a non actress that usually comes to her being the numero uno actress of the 70s – where she had nothing much to do except to scream naheeeen… and wait to be rescued by Dharmendra or Bachchan or whatever
And what you mean by fail to dazzle? she looked breathtakingly beautiful and charismatic well into her 40s , IMHO. not to mention a top class dancer to boot. So I isn’t that hard for me to understand her phenomenon. At least it isn’t as unexplainable as the Ajith phenomenon.
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MANK
November 21, 2015
I preferred Rekha, who had more mystique. She was the thing you saw when you peered into a deep well on a moonless night
Hey, that’s a nice way of putting it. And not to forget her voice. That deep husky sexy voice. That voice went a long way in creating iconic mysterious characters like Zohrabhai, umrao jaan, vasantasena,… Yeah Rekha is our Garbo, while Hema is our Elizabeth Taylor
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sdad1992
November 21, 2015
Brangan Sir, Is this your highest FB shares article. Just curious??
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MANK
November 21, 2015
I posit that Aamir and SRK are not the same as the others. There is no in-built audience for them that will watch whatever they dish out.
Venkatesh , I agree that SRK and Aamir are not mass heroes. But Aamirs case is little different. If an actor can power an out of the box crazy movie like Talaash to a 90 cr domestic bo or an absolutely crap movie like Dhoom3 to a 250 cr domestic, then he does posess something, something that even Salman does not posess.
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vijay
November 21, 2015
I think the bigger question that remains unanswered is how did these jokers become stars in the first place? The fact that they somehow get audiences for their stardom is after the fact. But how did a joker like Vijay become a star in the first place? He is good at dance, well so is Lawrence Raghavendra who has delivered the biggest hit this year. How did Ajith who delivered nothing but disasters in the early 2000s suddenly become a star? There is some explanation available for why Rajni became one. He was unique in some ways. Both these jokers though, aren’t. Vedhaalam could have been a big hit only for lack of options. No other big masalas for single screens this Diwali
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Rahul
November 22, 2015
His grey hair may have something to do with it. An eyepatch may make him an even bigger star.
http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/history-advertising-no-110-hathaway-mans-eyepatch/1317084
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Supertramp
November 22, 2015
Sometimes stardom and being a star are different things. Salman for a long time continuously gave flops until he found a formula for success. Did it affect his stardom or his positioning in the industry? I think it is different depending upon the industries, In tamil, telugu films the idea is to do masala to mass films to achieve that star status or as for hindi films it is the ability to make your film earn 100 crs irrespective of the content. Kamal/Rajini and Aamir/SRK tends to do less films (1 or 2 year) as compared to other stars who do more films to keep their stardom intact. Further down south in malayalam Mammooty and Mohanlal continues to give flops (audience must be applauded for rejecting bad content at times in this case) and still their stardom doesn’t seem to affect. Is this the case of them being visible all the time with 5-6 releases a year? Malayalam cinema couldn’t produce new stars for a long time, but has suddenly found so many new stars even when there’s no masala/mass movies exist anymore in the traditional sense. One of the case in point here is Fahad Faazil (who seems to have lots fans and star values, but like Ajith has disbanded fan associations and has been overtly critical about fan culture) is a star, but as for the choice of films he would come closer to a niche actor like Abhay Deol. And then there’s the case of these default or dynasty stars from Telugu. There’s no coherent argument in this and I don’t know where I am going with this. But I think being a star seems also about what they projects as their persona. Consider the case of SRK being considered intelligent and still being ridiculed for his choice of films or Aamir being mocked for his tendency to project himself as an intellectual and still get praised for his choice of films (Dhoom 3 an exception). Maybe in the case of SRK stardom means the ability to take family audience to the theaters without them worrying about the quality of the film and in the case of Aamir it is the other way around with the audience has this assurance that (sometimes clearly a false assurance) he is gonna deliver a quality product every time. Can we define stardom as the ability to make large group of people believe that their distinct traits and persona gonna guarantee them a good time at the Box Office?
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talapathyfan
November 22, 2015
vijay.. wat is rajini s speciality.. speaking crap tamil… quick dialogs.. doing stupid bachchan remakes… be careful wat u say abt others
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Prasad
November 22, 2015
There mush be some differentiation we need to bring in between a STAR who has a Cult following and OTHERS. In this case “Vedhalam” is 100CR so Ajith is s supreme STAR so is Dhanush for “VIP” so is Akshay Kumar for “Rowdy Rathore” or maybe Simbu for “Vallavan” or Suriya for “Singham”. Vikram gave “Dhool” and Saami” everybody thought he is a next Rajni+Kamal but just look at his flops in recent times.
Where do we draw the line between the GREATS and “OTHERS”. There is something called “CONSISTENT” proving themselves over a period of decades. We’re talking about a universal appeal and a AURA which can’t be associated with almost everybody who has a 50 CR or 100CR box office.
IMO , the so called “CULT FOLLOWING” is something which we need to consider and I think that kind of following probably Amitabh and Rajni had. I mean we’re talking about 2-3 decades of Consistent popularity. I don’t think anybody like Ajith, Vijay, Akshay kumar, Suriya can be easily “QUOTED” with them!
It’s even more interesting in Amitabh’s case. After his fall in nineties after he was written off, they way he came back with KBC was stupendous.
But both of them are way pat their prime the one person who seems IMO close now seems to be Aamir.
Post LAGAAN the way he has positioned himself is amazing. Literally just look at the choices of movies he has had… except maybe Dhoom 3. The ability to take risks like Talaash or Dhobhi Ghat but still being the Box office King.
Also There is a mention of Nayanthara but not Kangana. I know Nayanthara is having back to back hits but can she carry a movie on her shoulder’s like Kangana did in a “Queen” or a Tanu weds Manu Returns”. Probably she can do more if she gets the roles.
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ThouShaltNot
November 22, 2015
My take for what its worth… Both Ajith and Vijay played sensitive roles early in their careers and even had hits (meaning, they were not slouches before they became stars). But, in the Tamil film pantheon, you will go nowhere as a hero (even with hits and assuming you’d like to ascend), if you merely play sensitive, lovey-dovey, vulnerable roles. Unless you are also an extraordinary talent. Neither was/is. The other route to stardom involves rolling up your sleeves, puffing your chest, flexing your muscles and trumpeting your virility by beating baddies to a pulp. Both took this route.
In Vijay’s case, post Thirumalai, he has stuck to this action template (except for an occasional foray outside). For Vijay, the inflexion point was Gilli (turned him into a certified star) and then followed a string of Perarasu hits proclaiming the star’s unbridled masculinity (leaving aside the infusion of Perarasu brand crassness in those movies). Sample the title of Vijay’s movies pre Thirumalai, and they are sprinkled with words like Kaadhal, Piriyam, Mariyaadhai, Poo, Manam etc. Post Thirumalai, the titles had words like Gilli, Sivakasi, Thirupacchi, Madurey, Pokkiri, Vetaikkaran, Kaththi. The titles themselves tell a tale. In the action phase, there were more hits than misses. Though not exactly alike, Ajith has a similar story line, although I’m less familiar with details. Both were afflicted with early onset sensitivity and late blooming virility (in a movie context) 🙂 Ultimately, any marketplace gets what the marketplace wants. Meaning, the fault, dear movie rasigars, is not in our stars, but in ourselves, that we are underlings 🙂
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brangan
November 22, 2015
ThouShaltNot: Sample the title of Vijay’s movies pre Thirumalai, and they are sprinkled with words like Kaadhal, Piriyam, Mariyaadhai, Poo, Manam etc.
ROFL!
I should start giving out Comment of the Day awards. Yours would sweep the month 😀
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Madan
November 22, 2015
Probably she can do more if she gets the roles.
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chenab35
November 22, 2015
1.Vedhalam success is more due to Lakshmi Menon and Thambi Ramiah. Lakshmi Menon has a great hit rate (more than any upcoming actress) – though Sippai or Miruthan could spoil that.
A proven inspiration: Aai tamil movie staring Sarath made money at the box office. Same template,same result!!
4.Ajith in a ‘thara local’ role: For Dhanush in Maari it was interesting(fits him like a glove), for Ajith it looks really different considering he played suave characters before. I am not saying here that it suits him perfectly like Dhanush, just that it was a change from routine.
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Venkatesh
November 22, 2015
Sridevi has to be the luckiest star of her generation. Wherever she stepped in, she became a hit. I’d call her the ‘Female Kamal’. But in one aspect, she is definitely not comparable to the likes of Hema Malini and Rekha. They were stunning even at their 50s. I cannot think of any other actress who has aged gracefully as these two!
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Raj Balakrishnan
November 22, 2015
@rajandr, nothing has been proven against Narendra Modi. How convenient of you to forget the Hindus killed during the Gujrat riots. If clowns like Rahul Gandhi can aspire to be India’s Prime minister, nothing wrong in an efficient administrator to be elected as one. This is not a political blog, restrict your half baked ‘analysis’ to cinema.
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venkatesh
November 22, 2015
@Venkatesh: Sridevi is a far more accomplished actress than either of those two and she is still stunning.
I was a wee school boy when Nagina was released in Delhi and i can tell you that the front stalls were jam packed with her fans who threw money at the screens when she started doing that “Mein Teri dushman … ” dance.
She was a bona-fide superstar in her hey-days
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Venkatesh
November 22, 2015
venkatesh: You see, I’m not denying her accomplishments as a ‘star’. Now that she’s in her 50s, I don’t think she is as stunning as Rekha/Hema Malini used to be. Wait, even now I find both of them to be more attractive than Sridevi. 🙂
Thanks for reminding me of Nagina. I first saw (probably the only time) when it was shown as a ‘Saturday night’ film on DD many years ago (in the mid 90s). I too was a ‘wee school boy’ then. Supposedly being my first exposure to a horror movie, I had a bad dream and woke up crying the following night. More than Sridevi, it was Amrish Puri who scared me the most. We used to have the audio cassette of the film. I don’t remember “Mein Teri Dushman”, but my sister used to threaten me by repeatedly playing “Balma Tum Balma”. To me, it was such a scary tune then!
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A
November 22, 2015
@Rangan: “Suddenly we realise how gloom-dispelling, how life-sustaining this stuff is, that trashy pleasures are a big, big part of why we go to the movies.”
We are like this, have been, but past some years since the advent of the so called ‘art-house’ and ‘world ‘ cinema’ buffs, it has become quite a ‘no-no’ to admit this and what pure joy these trashy songs and movies give us.
I have not watched any Vijay movie but I chanced upon this song some time back and I can not get enough of it. Subtitled it is which makes it better. It stars Nayantara and Vijay and it begins with dheemtalaka tilana..’ Their moves, their expressions – of the lead pair and the group dancers – seem to show they are having a blast. You cant help but get carried away to that rhythm. The lyrics! Tamil cinema, over the past decade (?) or so in many ways in more forward in embracing such casual sexually charged innuendos in songs.
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A
November 22, 2015
@venaktesh: “Supposedly being my first exposure to a horror movie, I had a bad dream and woke up crying the following night. More than Sridevi, it was Amrish Puri who scared me the most. We used to have the audio cassette of the film. I don’t remember “Mein Teri Dushman”, but my sister used to threaten me by repeatedly playing “Balma Tum Balma”. To me, it was such a scary tune then!”
Hahahahahhahahaha!!!!!!
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R
November 22, 2015
http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/extraordinaryissue/success-comes-easy-not-respect/
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maami
November 22, 2015
Oops!
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Pady Srini
November 22, 2015
Woody Allen is raw movie talent. Pretty much most hollywood stars have a personal baggage. There is a clear separation of movie vs personal life.
BR – you didnt bring up timing. There are voids created constantly which someone has to fill up and the audience is ripe to fall in line. Identification is so key. Ajith is more honest in depicting himself as a guy with gray shades. Unlike Vijay – who is so fake. Surya is the only one I think is true to the movie’s character. Also the talent pool is so small here – that we pick the cleanest of the trash and are forced to accept.
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Siva
November 22, 2015
ThouShaltNot: LOL ! Fantastic Analysis right there on Vijay’s movie titles. When he shook it up went with an “Azhagiya Tamil Magan” (I thought it was a fantastic name for a star-vehicle), it bombed 😀 !!
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Ravi K
November 22, 2015
Pady Srini wrote: “Ajith is more honest in depicting himself as a guy with gray shades. Unlike Vijay – who is so fake.”
Not sure I follow. They’re both actors playing roles, not themselves. One is not more honest or fake than the other.
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vijay
November 22, 2015
Also Ajith’s so called “portraying gray shades” business started just couple of yrs back, when his hair started graying at the same time. Adhukku munnaadi 10 varusham torture pannadhellaam?
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MANK
November 23, 2015
Ajith playing negative roles is just like SRK playing all those romantic roles. its no big deal. Both found a niche that they could exploit to death. Let me say that the so called negative performances of ajith doesn’t hold a candle to what people like Rajni or sathyaraj achieved in their negative roles. Just watch Rajni in Nettrikkan or sathyaraj in Amaithipadai. The kind of badasserry that Ajith hopes to achieve is something they can knock off in their sleep.
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praneshp
November 23, 2015
Hi Rangan, a non-film question. When you write an article for the paper and the blog, do you do extra work for the links, etc on the blog? Or do you have something that renders the output differently for each?
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Madan
November 23, 2015
We are like this, have been, but past some years since the advent of the so called ‘art-house’ and ‘world ‘ cinema’ buffs, it has become quite a ‘no-no’ to admit this and what pure joy these trashy songs and movies give us.
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Destination Infinity
November 23, 2015
I think this star-worship feeds into people’s innate desire to be invincible, which they know they can’t achieve in real-life.
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Ram Murali
November 23, 2015
As for today’s actresses, they may be stars in terms of box-office value (Nayanthara, who’s apparently installed a hit-manufacturing unit in her backyard), and there are certainly some good performers, but they aren’t unique enough, the sauce isn’t special enough.
–> Among Tamil heroines of the past 15 years or so, I think the one person that was truly a star was Simran. I thought that she had tremendous screen presence, charm and even a bit of edge. She could dance superbly, could emote really well (the late night sequence in “Kannathil Muthamittaal” with Keerthana after the latter returns home from the train station is proof enough) and could really bring a lot of spark to even the most ordinary of roles. She was fabulous in movies like “Parthen Rasithen” and “Piriyamanavale” where her characters had multiple dimensions and were not the dumb one-dimensional bimbos.
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Pady Srini
November 23, 2015
Ravi K – “Not sure I follow. They’re both actors playing roles, not themselves. One is not more honest or fake than the other.”
But these are stars who define how their character should be. The story is written with them in mind and their expectations. So Vijay will not play a “womaniser” ever or even “someone who will go after a girl”. The fake “ozhungu paiyan” roles – repeatedly played by these stars are frustrating to say the least. Screenplays have no value. I admire Vijay Sethupathy and Vishnu for respecting the screenplay.
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Srinivas R
November 23, 2015
A – Regarding “sexually charged innuendos”. This has been norm for Tamil cinema lyrics since early 80’s, thanks to Vairamuthu I guess. I am not sure this anyway “forward”. It’s just female objectification disguised in beautiful language.
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Ragenikanth
November 23, 2015
Hero worship is not restricted to Tamil Nadu, Andhra will toping the list however I live in Bangalore their is no difference, to put it simply current generation stars just cannot match the Rajini, I work in a MNC when on any rajini movie release almost everybody is aware of release and most of see the movie in 1st days with family in theatre, when it comes to Vijay/ ajith/ surya/ vikram, hardly there is a news all this ajith overtaking rajini is planned tactics from tamil media the mystery is we don’t who is funding whether it is actor/ producer/ theatre owners.
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adithya
November 23, 2015
@MANK, I guess you are little bit harsh on ajith. I thought he was fantastic in vaali playing negative role and he was great in mankathaa too. IMO he can definitely match rajini when it comes to playing as antagonist but definitely not sathyaraj.
@ragenikanth, ajith doesn’t care whether he will become next super star or not. heck, he doesn’t even promote his films and I don’t see any reason why he should pay media to call him next rajinikanth.
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Ragenikanth
November 23, 2015
May be not directly but definitely the production team is into some tactic as it makes no sense for media houses to write so much about the movie which is just average even with Ajith. If you have noticed his movies since Billa it’s just same n it is boring when he does with director like siva it looks even worse, barring YA all his movies are below average and we should comparing to Vijay & co not beyond
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Venkatesh
November 23, 2015
adithya: Vaali is probably the only film where his portrayal worked very well. Mankatha was good, but something was missing for sure. But then, when you talk about rage, he is nowhere close to the likes of Rajini and Chiranjeevi. As opposed to both, Ajith used to have the ‘chocolate boy’ image (until the early 2000s). Sathyaraj was totally different from these two. Even while playing a deadly villain, his signature was there. He had such a unique comic sense (think of the 80s Rajini/Kamal films where he played the main antagonist). As Mank says, Netrikann/Amaidhipadai could only be played by Rajini/Sathyaraj. Watch this (from 2:38 – 3:02) and tell if Ajith could get anywhere close to Rajini. Think of Red (adhu!) 🙂
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Siva
November 23, 2015
I remember a few years ago (when he was on top, before Vijay took over) that he gave some interview that he would like to be the next superstar. There was a lot of hullabaloo on the media about him and they started taking hits at him. And suddenly, Vijay was the next superstar in the media.
They probably twisted his words and started printing them as if it were true. And that’s the point when he probably decided “eff it…I’m not gonna give interviews anymore”… That’s when he stopped promoting his own films. The one time they forced him to attend a function, he brought down the whole house 😀 …He wasn’t always like this. If you remember, he did used to give interviews in Vijay and Sun TVs.
But that silence, maybe even unexpectedly so for himself, started working for him, and now he is touted as the next superstar again by the fickle media!
To quote the other guy’s lines: “Vazhka oru Vattam” 😛
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Durai
November 23, 2015
Hold your breath, I have heard Ajith is a more subtle villain than Sathyaraj/Rajini in films like Vaali, Varalaru, Mankatha. Apparently Sathyaraj and Rajini are plain over the top in bad ass villainery roles.
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venkatesh
November 23, 2015
The best villain was G.K Rayudu from Indrudu Chandrudu
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Prasad
November 23, 2015
@A and Srinivas
Can’t agree more to your comments on lyrics.
“This has been norm for Tamil cinema lyrics since early 80’s, thanks to Vairamuthu I guess.’
Actually Vaali also played a significant role including Gangai Ameran and many others. The DNA of Lyrics were completely changed in 80’s.
Just CTRL FIND and ERASE words like ” Kaamam, Mogam, Manjam, then, Vandu, Kamadevan and Manmadan” you can probably erase 30-40% of the lyrics itself. And of course full Marks to TASMAC revolution in 2000’s to give us more gems like “Sarakku, figaru, and all others variations.
Feels refreshing to hear Prasoon Joshi and Amitabh Bharracharya (Rang de. Queen, Udaan, Lootera, .etc) in comparison.
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Shankar
November 23, 2015
My favorite Sathyaraj role as a villain was the last one he did… in Vikram. He was ultra-suave for those times…
Apparently, he had to be convinced to take on that role, one last time, since he had already started the switch to a hero in Saavi around that time. Of course, the success of Kadalora Kavithaigal firmly moved him from a villain to a hero.
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ThouShaltNot
November 23, 2015
let me say that the so called negative performances of ajith doesn’t hold a candle to what people like Rajni or sathyaraj achieved in their negative roles. Just watch Rajni in Nettrikkan or sathyaraj in Amaithipadai
Ungainsayable. To get a glimpse of Rajini’s hideously creepy role in Nettrikan (of a deviant), watch the song, “Theeraadha vilayaattu pillai…” and recoil in horror 🙂 The lyricist has trouble catching up with Rajini’s on-screen antics (maybe i put the cart before the horse, but no matter). In the end, dovetailing with the visual, the lyricist admonishes in sheer disgust – “Saeiyum illai, Thaaiyum illai, Sattam, Dharmam, aedhum illai !”
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MANK
November 23, 2015
I always wondered why sathyaraj never achieved the kind of stardom he deserved. He was such a terrific performer with such a unique style. Sure he was up against some solid competition with Rajni and Kamal in their peak form. But after a burst of stardom with Amaithipadai and Walter vetrivel in early to mid 90s, he just couldn’t hold on much longer. His disastrous turn as director with the embarrassing villadhi villain didn’t help much either. He somehow remind me of shatrughan sinha, both were wildly popular as villains whose transformation into heroes killed something in them as performers. they just didnt have the same charm and style
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A
November 23, 2015
@Srinivas: “It’s just female objectification disguised in beautiful language.”
My bad, i think I combined two different thoughts into one single sentence. Regarding this particular song, Nayantara (thanks to the subtitles) sings about how she is the one who netted him, she invites him for the night and so on. I haven’t seen a female singing or even saying these things to her ‘hero’ in recent times in film. Regarding older Tamil films, I need subtitles to understand. As well, am not well versed with the history of that time in Tamil Cinema. May be BR could elaborate.
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Ram Murali
November 24, 2015
Shankar, I did like him in Vikram (1986) but it was not the last villain role that he did. If you remember, he played an unforgettable villain in “Amaidhi Padai” (1994). He even played a negative role in “Villadhi Villain” (1995), which he also directed. Of course in both these movies, he safely played a hero role as well. Of course, nobody remembers “Amaidhi Padai” for the righteous policeman that he also played!
Years ago, I wrote a review of “Amaidhi Padai.” I am copy pasting excerpts from that (even though it looks so amateurish when I read it now!) to share how much I admired him in that role. Glad to see that there are other fans like Venkatesh that also think that nobody else could’ve essayed that part!
“Known for his patented, unique dialogue delivery, cutting remarks to all and sundry, and committing heinous acts with casual remarks, Satyaraj creates a character that makes us laugh our hearts out, without losing its credibility (or should I say ‘cruelty!’). He is perfect for the part. Probably the only person for the part! Tall, majestic, with a white shirt, white dhoti and gold-framed glasses, he looks the part too. There are two standout scenes for him as an actor. One is the election scene. As the announcer shouts out the number of votes by which he is leading (which increases with every announcement), his level of arrogance gradually increases (look at the way he gradually settles into his chair with every subsequent announcement) and the way he puts off Mani Vannan by saying, “Ennanga Mani,” is one of the best ever build-ups in Tamil Cinema. Illayaraja’s superb non-intrusive score adds to the effectiveness of the scene. Another memorable scene is the one where he meets his son for the first time. Satyaraj (also playing the son) beautifully demarcates between the two characters. His offhand remarks like, “Idhu dhaanda blood relationship” has us doubled up in laughter.”
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praneshp
November 24, 2015
@Prasad: When Kaamam/ Mogam/ Kamadevan are used, I don’t think we’re talking innuendos any more.
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Shankar
November 24, 2015
@Ram Murali, my point was about when his status in the industry changed… and that was with Saavi. One-offs like Amaithipadai don’t count simply because that will be akin to saying Rajini was a villain in the industry until Enthiran. Hope that clarifies.
@MANK, I may be wrong, but your comment does give a good inkling of your age, similar to what I’m about to say, will of mine! 🙂 Sathyaraj was a huge name in the 80s and his burst of stardom was not just the few films you mentioned. He was very popular as a villain (Thagudu Thagudu, anyone? 🙂 ) and had established himself as a much sought after actor. Then he switched to being a hero and the late 80s were flooded with hits (Vedham Puthithu, Kadalora Kavithaigal, Poovizhi Vaasalile, Makkal en Pakkam, KKK, Jallikattu, Anna Nagar Mudhal Theru… the list goes on). He was huge in the 80s and early 90s and I have seen crowds throng his films. What I will say is that, given his non-filmi background, he really has carved a niche for himself in Tamil cinema and has had an incredibly successful career. I’m not suggesting that he has great histrionic abilities but saying that he has really maximized his potential. The fact that many of his dialogues became a Sathyaraj trademark (example: En charactereyai…) is a testament to his uniqueness and success.
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Senthil Raj
November 24, 2015
Mr Baradwaj Rangan, one would think that you have watched simply too many hollywood and bollywood movies and you have lost the subtle art of appreciating or understanding what makes a tamil movie click. The fact as you have correctly alluded that Vedalam’s comedy and romantic scenes are too painful to watch but despise this the movie has registered impressive collections in the box office. The reasons for this are not too complex to understand.
There is still a good market for old fashion masala revenge movie which latches on to the right sentiment (like the sister emotions in this case) and Vedalam delivers that very well. Like a good masala biriyani which requires ingredients at the right level and at the right moment, Vedalam has enough ingredients to appeal to the audience and add that to Ajith’s screen presence, the movie is sheer escapist fantasy for the audiences. This is all the more given the weather scenario in TN recently, audiences are just looking to be entertained and escape to a feel good movie world. They neither care nor bother with subtleties of the plot. That is why some masala movies become major blockbusters.
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Raj Balakrishnan
November 24, 2015
Sorry this is off topic. But in other news, Aamir Khan and his precious wife have decided to relocate to Raqqa, the bastion of tolerance and liberalism.
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sanjay shastri
November 24, 2015
Only if Aamir Khan is half the man his wife is. He would not put words into the mouth of his Hindu wife to say what he want to say. Hopefully Rahul Gandhi will buy them the ticket out of the country
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Raj Balakrishnan
November 24, 2015
Aamir Khan is one of the biggest hypocrites around. He makes movies lampooning Hinduism and complains of intolerance.
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Ajay
November 24, 2015
Aamir Khan found out that India is intolerant when he got injured on the sets of his new film. Kamaal hai. Usually it’s nearer to the release of his film. He is starting publicity early
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jithu
November 25, 2015
rekha inside a borewell will make the already hard chennai salt water very spicy. add jaya’s two leafs of coriander and you get rasam. a ‘star’ drink for sure 😀
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Padawan
November 25, 2015
Boss, long time. The most important question, which no one seems to have asked you yet.
Neenga award ellam return pannaliya? 😛
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venkatesh
November 25, 2015
Can we not have the whole India tolerance, intolerance debate again please?
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Durai
November 25, 2015
Can we please block tolerance/Intolerance related comments, please?
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brangan
November 25, 2015
venkatesh/ Durai: Er, I hope I’ll be permitted to post my piece tomorrow 🙂
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venkatesh
November 26, 2015
BR : Oh I have no problem with the debate per-se however not on every thread , we have had this debate before in pseudo form at least 4 times in the last 6 months.
Aamir, SRK or whoever have as much of a right to say what they want as anyone else.
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Jay Shankar
November 26, 2015
:-))
and the villains have basically been instructed to act like gorillas after the zookeeper forgot their feed.
BR ji… imagine indha line Vadivel sonna eppadi irukkum… 🙂
Dai, neenga ellam inge vaanga… moonji ya patthu naal soru podadha gorila maadhiri vacchikittu oodi varanum… ok aa!!!!!
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Ganesh
November 30, 2015
The acting of Thala Ajith was simply superb and outstanding. The sister sentiment and respect for women is something to cherish as Thala Ajith and Lakshmi Menon done a fantastic job. Comedy wise extremely funny. Music and BGM was mind boggling. Movies are produced based on element of entertainment. Logic and reasoning of reality should seen separately. Hollywood n Bollywood movies are also carbon copies which the plots are almost the same. Indian culture are sidelined in most Bollywood movies. Tell this to your friend. You are indian, so appreciate the tamil films which has good messages. If you and your friend are so good, why not direct and produce a movie? No one force you to watch a movie thus you should have your opinion limited to yourself. In a making a film, many people are feeding their family especially when the movie becomes successful. Thala Ajith is a great man who is very humble, noble, benevolent, great motion artist and very talented. So, think before you write. Thanks
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Srinivas R
November 30, 2015
@Ganesh – I am curious, are you being sarcastic or serious?
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prakash
November 30, 2015
Brangan were rajini kamal in their youth compared to mgr and sivaji?
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chandra prakash
December 5, 2015
the rare interview by Ajith , talks about his media exposure
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