Interview: Ranveer Singh (on &#8217;83&#8217;, Bhansali, &#8216;Simmba&#8217;, etc.)

Brilliant interview, BR.

Ranveer is quite articulate and his love for his craft shines through in this interview. I was quite happy to know that he loved Super Deluxe and Kumbalangi Nights!

It’s a shame we won’t see him in films like Lootera any time soon, but his choices are usually quite good (you probably missed asking him why he chose Befikre!).

The positive vibes and energy he exudes are definitely a big plus. I wish I could imbibe those traits myself!

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KS: It’s because he wants to be a star in the sense how it applied to AB or Dharmendra and yet is beholden to millennial quirks. He could just wear a nice black suit which is what stars did back in the day to look stylish without looking overdressed or, in this case, ridiculous. But he won’t. He probably thinks a suit is show stuffy. And he won’t just wear a T shirt like his cohort because that’s not starry enough for him. And ends up coming across as an attention seeker.

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BR: Would have loved to see your expression (unless you kept the poker face on) when he said “Simbba is arguably the best reviewed masala film ever”.

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Aman Basha

Yeh kaunsa maal phoonk ke aaya 🙂 And like the YouTube comments noted, it did seem like he was reading off notes for the South India-related questions.

This was a train wreck of an interview, and I’m just in the first 6 minutes 🙂

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Voldemort

KS : The sunglasses look like he cut them out of plastic film himself.

LOL. I thought they looked like the cheap 3D glasses that some theatres give for free for 3D movies.

I really like watching Ranveer in the movies but find him insufferable and fake in shows and interviews. He tries too hard to come off as deep and insightful, when in reality he needs to be prompted for some answers like in this interview. Duh.

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Akhilan

For those of you wondering, Ranveer’s sunglasses are by Gucci, and I quite liked them actually. 🙂 Thank me later. 😉

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Random

They seriously spent over 200 crores to make something people can watch on YouTube. By people here, I mean those actually interested in cricket history, not the general public.

And our samosa critics are no better. They think a sports documentary makes great cinema because it makes them nostalgic. No wonder neither our cinema receives much foreign acclaim, nor do our local audiences take them seriously.

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Saket

Sigh, we Indians don’t really learn, do we?

Slut-shaming, body-shaming people and now what? Apparel-shaming?

Arre bhai…uska paisa…uske kapde…what’s there to be judgmental about?

And yes, Simmba was indeed the best-reviewed film out of all recent masala releases in Bollywood. Certainly Rohit Shetty’s best-reviewed film. When you have the likes of Farah Khan, Sajid Khan, Prabhudeva and Rohit Shetty as the only masala filmmakers (don’t get me even started on Milap Zaveri), the completion is non-existent in a sense. Ali Abbas Zafar makes better masala films but he’s stuck with stars like Salman and Katrina.

And yes, in case people forgot, BR gave a glowing review to Simmba.

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Yajiv

His looking repeatedly to his right ([probably where his notes are) while answering questions about South India was major cringe! Yikes! Would have been better if he had just said “I don’t know”.

His fashion sense is a little unusual but I don’t mind it. Nice to have some variation from the same 10 Hugo Boss or Armani outfits that the other gentlemen of Bollywood wear while doing publicity.

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“Slut-shaming, body-shaming people and now what? Apparel-shaming?” – Oh boy, if reaching was a sport, you would win a gold medal. When criticism is labelled as ‘apparel-shaming’, it says more about those feeling shamed or, in this case, the one intervening on behalf of one of the biggest film stars today in India. I am only punching up, man, so what’s your problem? Or is THAT precisely your problem?

“Simmba was indeed the best-reviewed film out of all recent masala releases in Bollywood” – I did not realize that recent and ever are synonymous words in the English language. Thanks for telling me!

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“They seriously spent over 200 crores to make something people can watch on YouTube.” – Is there somewhere on YouTube where I could watch Kapil’s 175 not out? Pl do share the link. Thanks in advance!

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Saket

@Madan: criticism of what precisely? His dressing sense?

It’s because he wants to be a star in the sense how it applied to AB or Dharmendra and yet is beholden to millennial quirks. He could just wear a nice black suit which is what stars did back in the day to look stylish without looking overdressed or, in this case, ridiculous. But he won’t. He probably thinks a suit is show stuffy. And he won’t just wear a T shirt like his cohort because that’s not starry enough for him. And ends up coming across as an attention seeker.

Your words, quoted above. Quite the pop-psychologist you are. So apparently you took a peek into Ranveer’s head and figured out that he wishes to be a star like AB or Dharmendra and is still a stooopid millennial who’s neither here nor there. Bravo, clap, clap!

You’d make a great (drunk) uncle at a party!

I did not realize that recent and ever are synonymous words in the English language. Thanks for telling me!

And I didn’t realize that people can’t understand figurative speech. English or otherwise.

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Yajiv

@Madan: You are at your sarcastic best today!

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@Madan – You will never find footage of Kapil’s 175. Apparently there was a strike by telecasting companies during that match. Not sure for what reasons though.

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Sajjan

Oh lord! What a painful monologue that was!! It was all unicorn and rainbows! He likes everyone and respects everyone and wants to work with everyone in every language. BR thanking him in the end was even more cringeworthy

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Satya

The kind of perennial natural high this man is on… I wish I had some of that. On a flipside though, it defeats my preference in clothing, so I am out.

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Kay

All other flaws apart, I don’t understand why his choice of clothing is being dissected here. Also, Ranveer is not the first star to wear sunglasses in an interview.

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2021

“perennial high” is right. A lot of it might even be put on bcoz like he himself admitted (or the effect of recreational drugs he is smoking)….he feels compelled to people please even when he doesn’t have to or when he is on low energy.

As an introvert myself, it was almost painful to watch him greet every single one of the actors and cricketers and their family, with the same smile plastered on his face with warmth, cheerfulness, and high energy, even into late night, at the movie screening. Looks like he has a genuine love for people. (but what do I know? Maybe it’s all an act & he hates humankind and puts on a fake smile while he aggressively stabs voodoo dolls at night at his home). I haven’t seen a mean bone in him so far. I like the way he treats his wife. I liked the way he was at the promotions for 83 in all the states. No covert racist comments in the pretense of being funny. I like him even better than SRK. I haven’t heard any putdowns from him about anyone.

The dressing sense has made him stand out and get attention. I think these days it is important to stand out and make a mark by being different, so that one doesn’t get lost in the crowd of new actors trying to make their mark in Bollywood. Whatever he is doing has worked for him.
Don’t know if he will be different after a few years and a few flops , down the line. I think the chances are less. I think marrying Deepika has assured him a rock-solid anchor down the years when the going gets rough. (But again what do I know? She has turned out to be a druggie getting high on a cocktail of weed and antidepressants). But the media& internet assures me that drugs are normal and plebs like me are just plain uncool for not taking them in my daily life.

I can’t help but compare him to Ranbir to see how good he comes off as. Ranbir already looks washed up and tired. Looks like Ranbir latches onto the younger, more famous actress to be in limelight and to get some kind of positivity and sunshine in his already dark, depressed, son-of-an-alchoholic& wifebeater life.

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Apu

KS and Madan: Ranveer likes dressing like that – deal with it! I don’t think he does it because he wants to prove a point about being a star like AB (though I am sure he aspires to be like him, like thousand other folks in the film industry), people have their own preference and sense of dressing. You are totally within your rights and everything to criticize his quirky dress sense (or the lack of it) but to find a reason of why he dresses like that…is ridiculous!

I know of so many folks and have also seen people like that lining up or inside designer stores like Gucci, Prada, LV who like wearing brands. Take it or leave it :).

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brangan

https://www.filmcompanion.in/interviews/bollywood-interview/gully-boy-at-berlin-an-oral-history/amp/

He explains his dress sense here. (See the paragraph where he was laid up…)

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KS

@Saket: Are you Ranveer Singh’s PR agent or chamcha? Why are you getting so worked up over people’s opinions about a celebrity’s ridiculous costumes? If he puts himself out there dressed like a clown, of course we have the right to mock him for it. And not everything is “shaming”, the buzzword certainly doesn’t apply here. By your logic, Brangan habitually indulges in cinema-shaming? I mean, its a producers money, if he wishes to bring out bad movies, why should Brangan judge them? Also you’re comment-shaming (and age-shaming) Madan, so cut it out. But then I guess, as an Indian, you have a lot to learn, as you so haughtily mentioned.

The interview was cringe. Just like his gimmicky attire, everything about him seems like an act that desperately screams for attention. Its all inanity frilled up with faux-enthusiasm. He doesn’t make for a good subject for a serious interview on the art or process of cinema. He’s a better fit for Coffee with Karan or some other shallow gossipy forums where his fake choreographed exuberance might be appreciated more.

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Yajiv

@2021: Agree with you on most of what you said. However I wouldn’t call people on antidepressants druggies. Dictionary definition wise, yes you are correct but the word druggie is heavily stigmatised. Some people need psychiatric medicine to live ‘normal’ lives and I don’t think it’s fair to call them druggies for using such medication. If that were the case, I should be calling my diabetic grandma and my hypertensive grandpa druggies too for taking their daily pills .

With regards to weed, I have my own opinion on it but I get that we may not see eye to eye on it so I won’t touch that topic.

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2021

@Yajiv..
I didn’t use the term druggie for her using anti-depressants. I thought it was obvious.

I don’t know all the technical terms since, like I mentioned before, I am not a user.. All I know is her getting summoned by NCB for asking for ‘hash’ and ‘maal’ in her WhatsApp calls. I used druggie meaning a user of drugs. In my limited knowledge, hash and maal are drugs. If there are more “cool” or politically correct names for drug users I am unaware of it, so the use of the word “druggie”.

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“And I didn’t realize that people can’t understand figurative speech. English or otherwise.” – Achcha? So now we call it figurative when somebody hypes up their own movie by adding an ‘ever’? Like a drunk Warne calling an ugly Yusuf Pathan slogfest the best innings he ever saw (poor Waugh, Ponting, Hayden, Langer – they aren’t dead so they don’t get to roll in their graves!) is just, uh, figurative? No, sadly for you, your disingenuous defence will not cut it.

When a filmstar gets into a zoom interview, I repeat a zoom interview, wearing a hat and sunglasses to protect himself from the scalding heat of the airconditioning and calls his movie the best reviewed masala movie ever, finding it attention seeking behaviour is justified. That you do not find it attention seeking is your prerogative but your foaming at the mouth is not going to thwart me from having my say.

And if the best you can manage is to call me a drunk uncle, you will only elicit a chortle as I imagine your reddened face while you typed out your response. I don’t drink very much at all and certainly not while I am driving so, uncle or not, at least I am not going to run over people while I am drunk. So chew on that too!

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” Ranveer likes dressing like that – deal with it! I” – No! YOU deal with it. Let BR decide who gets to say what in this space. It’s fine if you don’t agree with us. But don’t try to stop us from having our say about a star wearing a garish hat and sunglasses to a zoom interview. And don’t even flatter yourself for a minute that you will shame us into stopping it.

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madhusudhan194: That’s the point. The match was never telecast. So contrary to what the poster Random claimed, an important chunk of the film cannot be found on YouTube.

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Jai

Intriguing interview 🙂 Like many here, am a fan of Ranveer the actor – Band Baaja Baraat remains one of my favourites from recent years, and he was superb in Lootera , Bajirao Mastani and Padmaavat as well.

But he nearly always comes across as attention seeking and “trying too hard” in most of his off screen appearances. It was irritating when he was an up and coming star, but then, one thought that he was just following the adage “Jo diktha hai, wohi biktha hai”. Now, when he is in the top rung, it is a tad mystifying why he keeps up the same borderline obnoxious behaviour.

As a tennis fan, this behaviour from Ranveer reminds me of Stefanos Tsitsipas. Both immensely talented in their craft, both coming across as somewhat unlikeable off the stage of that craft. This is just IMO, BTW. I see a few ruffled feathers in the comments thread with any critique of Ranveer already. 😀

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Nappinai (@Nappinai2)

I don’t know what RS meant by “ever” but it can sometimes be a manner of speaking without attaching too much importance to the word. I know of people who talk that way – “that’s the best coffee ever”; “that’s the best joke ever” and so on. Like I said that may or may not be the case here and it can be argued that public figures should be more careful in their choice of words.

Anyway, I am curious to know the reason behind the film being a BO failure. It has two big stars, a cricket world cup victory story, aggressive PR and by all accounts is a good film. Spidey and Pushpa have fared well, so it can’t be the pandemic. Any thoughts? One reason I could think of is that not many may be interested to watch the 83 WC win, especially the younger crowd, that likely relates more to the 2011 win or Kohli and so on.

I did come across this producer’s round-table with Anupama where she starts off by asking if the palette has changed, although that’s in the context of middle budget films. KJO does provide some great insights overall but no one really answers her question other than saying if the content is good, crowd will come!

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Thupparivaalan

Personally, I love the way he dresses outside the movies. He’s one of the artists who isn’t afraid to be what he wants to be and there’s very few of them, so more power to him. I also wish he comes out of this family phase soon, or at least hope he does something slightly offbeat stuff like aamir’s talaash.

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I am hearing that the film isn’t doing that well at the Box office. Which is surprising because it’s an unabashed crowd pleaser. I had a few issues with it. Wrote it here – https://fromcatocinema.wordpress.com/2021/12/28/83-offers-some-highs-but-little-else/?fbclid=IwAR34IdMCUAyTndFeV_4t5gcJIyMyQLFg0rdONzbNIeQNSyNIZk7QzUl-Gtk

Do read and let me know what you think.

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@Jai : In fact, I am a huge fan of Ranveer the actor too. I went to watch 83 because I believed he would rise up to the challenge and capture the essence of Kapil Dev. You couldn’t pay me to watch Arjun Kapoor attempt that role!

And I wouldn’t even object to his sartorial sense had the interview been shot outdoors. But in a zoom interview, he does look ridiculously overdressed. It is also just a fact that others in his cohort turn up in casuals for such interviews and we have seen them do that in the interviews BR has done with them. I haven’t stayed anything that exists and yet it riles the offend me not club so! Ranveer himself says in the Berlin interview that he wants to dress up flamboyantly and says Deepika has a more classical take and disagrees with them on that. Uh, yeah, she supports him on that but she’s his wife. I am not married to Ranveer and don’t have to support him. I am fully entitled to speculate about why he would turn up wearing a hat and sunglasses to a zoom interview.

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I also agree on the comparison with Tsitsipas, especially the extreme pains he takes to articulate himself. Very similar. I hope our offend me not club doesn’t ever come across what tennis fans have to say about Tsitsipas. 😛

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madhusudhan194: I agree with many of the points you made and the things you said you missed. But the counter argument to that is the length. It’s already nearly 3 hours and etching it out even more would turn it into Once Upon A Time In America. This is a reflection of how OTT has shaped our expectations. Now that we KNOW our artists can also make deep dive web series, we have started to look for that in films too where it’s always tougher because a film isn’t ‘allowed’ to exceed the 2 hour mark by too much.

The other thing – and the reason why 83 deserves a mini series rather than just a movie – is the story of the world cup triumph itself has multiple beats. They couldn’t have done what Borg McEnroe did and spent half of the movie on a character portrait of both players and half on the final. Every step in the journey from the upset win over WI in the round robin, the humiliation against Aus and the WI rematch, the miracle against Zimbabwe and the silencing of the stiff upper lip Lordsahebs in the semi, all were important. So a web series would have captured more of the battles within the matches.

That said, I don’t know from everything I have read and watched about the campaign that there was much tactical thought behind the key moments. Unlike World Series where Gavaskar was a cerebral captain and had a plan around Siva and Shastri’s bowling. Kapil was an instinctive captain and the campaign was rather serendipitous. That’s the beauty of it. Cheeka used to do a series in the late 90s where he talked about prior world cups and he said that there was no pressure on the day of the 83 final because they had never expected to get that far. Kapil believed but the rest didn’t necessarily completely suspend disbelief. You can make out from the body language too that they were very jovial and carefree, no clenched fists or gritted teeth to be found. To that extent, the movie did capture the sense that it was an entertaining ride that somehow ended up being a seminal chapter in Indian cricket.

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“Looks like Ranbir latches onto the younger, more famous actress to be in limelight and to get some kind of positivity and sunshine in his already dark, depressed, son-of-an-alchoholic& wifebeater life.”

It’s one thing to dump on celebrities still around to defend themselves, quite another to shit on those who can’t.

Be better than this.

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Yajiv

@2021:

Here’s what you had written: “She has turned out to be a druggie getting high on a cocktail of weed and antidepressants”. You did not say “She has turned out to be a druggie getting high on a cocktail of hash and maal”. Nor did you say “She has turned out to be a druggie getting high on weed”. You said “cocktail of antidepressants and weed”. Ergo you are using the fact that a person is using both substances to call them a druggie. So no in fact was not at all “obvious” that you were using the term druggie for just weed alone.

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theeversriram

https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/bollywood/story/83-box-office-collection-day-5-ranveer-singh-film-fails-to-bring-audience-to-the-theatre-1893512-2021-12-29

Box office performance seems to be much lesser than expected; Pushpa & Spiderman have played spoilsports.
Is #boycottbollywood a factor as well?

https://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/83-ranveer-singh-to-forgo-pending-fee-for-kabir-khans-film-after-massive-losses-at-the-box-office-1977893/

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2021

@ KayKay
Get off your high horses. Nothing I write can come anywhere close to the kind of shit you have been writing in the comment sections, for the past few years.

I am sure poor little rich Bollywood stars don’t need a random guy like you in a blog comment section to defend them.

And I did not make up any of this shit. It has been all over in the news and Ranbir and his dad have all talked about it openly in interviews.

@Yajiv..
Are you even aware of what a bore you are !! Get over it. She is a DRUGGIE.

It is so funny to see nonentities in a comment section feeling all outraged on behalf of rich celebs .

A bunch of geriatrics getting offended at everything and nitpicking on petty stuff. Get a life.

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” This is a reflection of how OTT has shaped our expectations. Now that we KNOW our artists can also make deep dive web series, we have started to look for that in films too where it’s always tougher because a film isn’t ‘allowed’ to exceed the 2 hour mark by too much.” – I agree to an extent. But think of it like this. Lets take that example of Kapil’s catch to dismiss Viv Richards. We already know that it’s an iconic catch that altered the course of the WI innings. Richards was scoring freely and the wicket arrested the run flow. We know this much because we have read about it or seen it on TV. Now what more can you show me in your film that makes the catch more dramatic? That’s what I missed. Maybe a couple of more scenes like that would have elevated the overall experience. I am not sure.

“Kapil was an instinctive captain and the campaign was rather serendipitous.” – Again I just want to give the opening scene of MS Dhoni movie as an example. As soon as Murali comes on to bowl, Dhoni decides that he’s going to promote himself. Again that was a very instinctive decision but was shown in a visually interesting way in the film. Maybe Dhoni actually had that planned and we don’t know but the film makes it looks instinctive and still shows it in an interesting way. They could have done something like that.

And it cannot have worked out so randomly right? There must have been some discussion on the batting order or bowling changes or some strategy against short pitch bowling etc. We didn’t see any of that.

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Yajiv

@2021: One more thing. “I don’t know all the technical terms since, like I mentioned before, I am not a user.” Oh so all those who know “technical terms” (i.e. that words like ‘druggies’ have very specific invocations) are (drug) users is it? Lovely logic. Let me ask you a question. Do you drink coffee or tea? Have you ever had a sip of beer? Caffeine and alcohol are drugs too. If you answered yes to either question, then you too are a user. And you, by your logic, should be aware of these “technical terms”.

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Huge fan of Ranveer, the actor but I have to shut my eyes when I happen upon him during his live appearances. 🙂 That said, I don’t think he’s attention-seeking as much as he’s having fun with his clothes. Sunglasses today are less a practical protective aid and more of a fashion statement. (I still remember Rishi Kapoor caustically asking why film stars have to wear sunglasses at night inside the airport.)

DP cringes every time she’s asked about his sartorial choices, but as she said, this is who he is. And I think she’s right – some of his childhood pics on social media are also quite outré even for the flashy 80s.

I have never been a great fan of high fashion anyway – most of it is weird (to me). But then, I don’t have to wear it.

p.s Anti-depressants may be drugs in the literal sense, but they are not ‘drugs’ in the colloquial sense. Mixing them up with weed does a disservice to people on anti-depressants who already deal with stigma due to their mental health issues.

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p.s. Prithviraj’s conversation with Ranveer had the former state quite openly that he wasn’t even going to comment on Ranveer’s attire. I had to laugh! 🙂

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Aman Basha

Ranveer Singh is certainly one of the better star-actors Hindi Cinema, and dare I say, Indian Cinema has had, purely based on the few years and films he’s done. For example, the moment where Ranveer says “We here to win”, I forgot him and saw Kapil Dev.

His dressing style is unique but very hit and miss, although on a good day, he should represent India at the Met Gala and not his wife’s unimaginative costumes. 🙂

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“Nothing I write can come anywhere close to the kind of shit you have been writing in the comment sections, for the past few years.”

So you equate my random double entendres with you taking a steaming dump on a dead celebrity? Reducing a Bollywood Icon’s body of work to some personal demons he had to wrestle with in his life?

Motherfucker, you are deeply stupid!

“It has been all over in the news and Ranbir and his dad have all talked about it openly in interviews.”

So, that’s a justification for going all open season on them is it?

It’s this kind of bullshit equivocation that makes you the perfect Twitter Troll.

The handle you’ve chosen is perfect, because just like this year, I can’t wait for you to fuck off.

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“It is so funny to see nonentities in a comment section feeling all outraged on behalf of rich celebs”

Non Entities???? Well, fuck me sideways, Your Highness, wasn’t aware we were in the presence of a Genuine Internet Deity. Else, I would have performed the appropriate genuflection.

“A bunch of geriatrics getting offended at everything and nitpicking on petty stuff. Get a life”

So bleats the Ageist Troll who needs to dump on dead celebrities to score points.

And FYI…Get a Life????? What the fuck is this, 1990??? Even a geriatric like me stopped using this 20 years ago. If you want to come across all young and hip, try to keep the vocab current, you little shithead.

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Nappinai (@Nappinai2)

“It’s one thing to dump on celebrities still around to defend themselves, quite another to shit on those who can’t. Be better than this.”

While this makes sense in general when talking about someone ungraciously, it’s hard to apply this standard to Bollywood with it’s culture of blind items, over active PRs and tabloid gossip.

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Yajiv

@2021: I am not outraged for the sake of celebrities. I am outraged for all the poor souls (including a cousin of mine) who have lost their lives because fools like you in India stigmatise mental health medication (among other things).

From your plethora of ad hominem insults, it is clear that you’re a Gen Z teen having a hormonal meltdown. So I’m gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you are too naive to know better. I sincerely hope that you won’t have to eat your words one day. Here’s wishing you a good life free of health issues (both mental or otherwise).

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Thupparivaalan

Btw, what’s this hate against weed? Smoking a blunt and watching a movie is one of the most primal pleasures available to the man in 21st century and I pity those who haven’t tried it. I used to smoke a lot, I do smoke now yes, but I used to too.

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2021

@Yajiv.
Didn’t read past the first line. Because you are still a bore harping on nothing. She is still a DRUGGIE (lol)

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2021

I like that Ranveer cares about things enough to not be able to hide it. Whether it is his girlfriend, or his latest movie, or fashion, or ’90’s Bollywood actors like Govinda & Akshay or whatever, his admiration for SLB, he seems to have that passion that makes it impossible to hide his feelings. I like it when he seems sincerely excited about something to the point that he can’t not show it. I like that he is capable of caring about something outside of himself enough to show it. Is earnest and isn’t afraid to share his interests with the world. More than that, maybe he isn’t able to NOT share it with the world. There’s value in being passionate about anything at all, about finding joy and excitement in things outside of oneself.

I like that in his interviews he doesn’t seem very walled off and disconnected. He comes off especially good compared to some other actors who seem very passionless .

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2021

“Mixing them up with weed does a disservice to people on anti-depressants who already deal with stigma due to their mental health issues.”
Calling high fashion weird does a disservice to people who are making unconventional fashion choices who already deal with stigma due to other peoples’ narrow and outdated fashion sensibilities.

Here is me defending Ranveer Singh’s right to exercise his creativity in fashion. I am deeply hurt and offended on Ranveers’ behalf by people calling his fashion weird and talking about having to shut their eyes. Ranveer is a human just like u and me and he has every right to dress the way he wants to without being made fun of.

Selective wokism and woke lecturing on this blog comment section are a joke.

Also good that Prithvi didn’t comment on Ranveer’s attire because I don’t think he is qualified to. Underneath the boringly suited look( selected by some stylist/P.R person I am sure) , Prithvi is still the stick-in-the-mud nerd with thick glasses who wouldn’t know the first thing about being fashionable.

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TamilThanos

This interview thread has gotten 45 comments till now while the average here is about 10. And you are all here wondering what is the purpose of wearing such an outfit for the Zoom interview.

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madhusudhan194: Well, to give one example, the scene where Kapil asks Sandhu to bowl to the field and Sandhu asks where and Kapil reels off three positions, pointing to them, “There, there and there”. And Sandhu is completely at a loss. That actually happened and Sandhu narrated it back when the movie was launched. He said Kapil had some vision in his mind but didn’t necessarily communicate that clearly to the team. That’s how the whole thing about Kapil entertaining his team by giving them instructions in English was born. The whole Cheeka sounding drunk without having drunk speech about his captain was something he actually said at the same launch party. Yes, he actually called the East African team a bunch of Gujjus!

So a lot of it is actually pretty close to what happened. I don’t find that so hard to believe because Kapil was an unmitigated disaster as coach. I doubt his tactical input to Tendulkar’s hapless minions headed for slaughter down under went beyond “boys play well”. You do see a couple of insights like Sunny telling Sandhu to bowl the one that seems to shape away but darts in after bounce to Greenidge. Or when they pitched up to Lloyd to make him reach for it. Or Madan Lal insisting that Kapil give him one more over when he was being beaten to all corners by Viv. I did miss experiencing the rhythm of these matches albeit it is somewhat brought out. But again, that would have required prioritizing one of the many important matches. Or not showing the debacles against WI and Aus – and had they done that, it would not capture why Zimbabwe was a must win game and how the doubts had returned after the high of the first couple of wins. There is a decent amount of time given to slice of life scenes happening around the world cup which I thought added a lot to the movie. So the choice would have been to take that all out and give more time to the matches. Perhaps you would have liked it that way. My preference is for the arc they chose but with some bits left out like merely showing Sachin celebrating with nothing else beyond it, that’s just pandering. The state of the BCCI office then, the difficulty of travelling abroad back then or even making phone calls, the full blast of stiff upper lip condescension, the incredulousness Kapil is met with when he says he believes they can win, these all enriched the film and in an unexpectedly balanced way. It did bring out more of the ertstwhile documentary filmmaker in Kabir Khan and he didn’t try to turn it into a pitchforked battle with heightened tensions. That would have made for more dramatic cinema but that’s not what happened.

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Thupparivaalan

“Prithvi is still the stick-in-the-mud nerd with thick glasses who wouldn’t know the first thing about being fashionable”

Willing to bet 100$ that this guy’s an late 20’s incel who starts giving expletives after he gets his ass whooped by a 10 something kid in FIFA. Surely there’s a Shibu in Minnal Murali levels of backstory for you, what hurt you man @2021

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The plot thickens. So now a Ranveer fan wants to attack wokism or, uh, selective wokism?

I could argue with you, dear Mr/Ms 2021, but if you get so hurt on someone else’s behalf, someone whom I presume you are not related to or aren’t the internet nom-de-plume of, then there is nothing I or anyone else can do about it and you need to help yourself or seek help. Seriously, there are bigger fish to fry than a bunch of people on the internet commenting on Ranveer’s dress sense. A pastime, if I may, that people get paid for to write on newspapers and, particularly, on what women wear and in at least equally as ‘hurtful’ ways. Now I don’t remember you coming here to foam at the mouth about it nor, er, submitting a readers write to complain about it. So I meet your accusation of hypocrisy with one of my own levelled at you. If you think THAT was OK then this is too and Ranveer is not some special brand of snowflake that needs your Z security level protection.

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2021

@Kaykay

From the sleazy double entendre comments u make on random actresses, u come across as an old curmudgeon, a bald and paunchy uncle who is not getting any action in real life, and so is venting out here.

“you are deeply stupid!
“shithead.”

Holy cow. I’d back down from that one.
Lol..what next ? stinky peepee head/poopy head/ poop sniffer? Now that would have been crossing a line..haha. What is this? A Disney reality show?

Age-induced high B.P/ indigestion? Calm down, uncle. I am sure you are too stupid to realize how dumb you come across as when you can’t get your opinion across without getting abusive to those in a comment section , while pretending to be all sanctimonious and offended for a celebrity who has openly admitted his alcoholism and abusive nature.

What a joke you turned out to be….The regular grumbling smellfungus coming out of the woodworks to virtue signal. From your frequent comments on threads with old celebs, it is obvious you are a dinosaur, clueless about present-day pop culture.

This is social media. People will form opinions on the way one projects oneself here.

When an entitled, underachieving, overpraised man like Ranbir Kapoor, (who got all kinds of things handed to him without working for them and while being deeply mediocre or even toxic, and totally & completely unaware of it), comes on interviews and talks about his poor rich childhood where his father was an alcoholic and abusive towards his mother (not to point at the bigger problems like spousal or alcohol abuse), but to sound like a tortured artist who should get all the sympathy, then one is going to comment on it. Get with the times, uncle.

Everyone can have their own opinions and this is the internet, so no one cares about your opinion to begin with..lol.

Get unhinged and go ballistic again like farty old uncles who can’t stand an opinion that is different from their own… Use more insult words you heard in elementary school…the tried and true original (OG )insults. You sound like a 7-year-old throwing a temper tantrum over a dispute in a Yugioh duel. It’s funny how you decided to abstain from anything past a 3rd grader’s vernacular and is laughably juvenile …lol. What’s next..stupid punk, spazo, rotten jerk. I would have to call my first-grade teacher..lol. I thrive off your pointless rage and anger, you fucking asshole.

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2021, you are offensive, aren’t you? There is something called reading comprehension.

I said that Ranveer is not attention-seeking but having fun with his clothes, that I might find his fashion weird, but hey, I don’t have to wear it. There is a difference between finding high fashion weird (my opinion) and calling Ranveer weird or attention seeking for the clothes he wears (name calling).

Which, by the way, is what you are doing – to other celebs, dead or alive, and commenters who may be geriatric (or not) but are most certainly alive.

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gnanaozhi

Jfc why this angst over the sartorial choices of an actor?

And no, mocking this is not the same as slut shaming, this is not even in the same fucking universe. Everyone gets that it’s good prerogative, I don’t think anyone is offended or going “gasp how dare he” but what he wears comes across to me personally as tryhard nonsense and that’s my opinion.

On a different note, have had the opportunity to meet him in one of the post cine awards after-party and man he oozes charisma IRL. His off stage (but still sort of in the limelight I guess) personality is still the ultra hyper-just downed 10 glasses of redbull and dropped 3 lines- style but there is no denying the fact that he absolutely owns any room he is in. Am no fanboy, and can’t really even tell his movies in particular but definitely love his acting in the ones I have watched.

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Heisenberg

Ranveer looks like he was shooting a cameo for Emily in Paris and did this interview during break 😀

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Anand Raghavan

Not watched the movie yet. No doubt that 83 WC win was single most important turning point in Indian cricket which hitherto had no mass following. If that transformation among masses (which became a frenzy and ably tapped by BCCI later post liberalization in 1992, and eventually overwhelming even ICC) had been brought out by this movie, it would have achieved its purpose.

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This is social media. People will form opinions on the way one projects oneself here.
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Everyone can have their own opinions and this is the internet, so no one cares about your opinion to begin with..lol.

And irony wept quietly in a corner.

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2021:

Errr….what part of Fuck Off did you not understand, Little Troll?

Or is the purpose of your latest hyper-triggered long winded diatribe (bald, paunchy, middle aged, uncle, indigestion????? etc etc) merely to prove my point, that you are indeed deeply stupid? Take a bow, dipshit. Mission Accomplished!

Now 2021…seriously….you literally have a day left….pretty please, with sugar on top….fuck off.

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Voldemort

One wonders what such diehard Ranveer fans have to say about 83. Did they bother to watch it at all?

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2021

Willing to bet 100$ that this guy’s an late 20’s incel who starts giving expletives after he gets his ass whooped by a 10 something kid in FIFA. Surely there’s a Shibu in Minnal Murali levels of backstory for you, what hurt you man @2021

Willing to bet 100$ that this guy’s a late’60’s dinosaur / nerd who starts saying pointless stuff just to get some attention when he has nothing to say and after feeling left out of everything by all his friends, kids and grandkids.

Surely there’s an amithab in baghban level of backstory for you, what hurt you man @ Thupparivaalan

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2021

It is quite funny to see a lot of them in the comment section so eager to latch on to one word to blame or to assume things that are not written and then take offense to that. There were even comments saying what is wrong with taking weed, while I never said there was. It is almost like they are waiting for that one comment to find offense and then write long lectures and to sound self-righteous .

I have found a lot of the snowflakes taking offense for silly things a sham.

@Anu Warrier,
With your better reading comprehension, I would love to hear your take on KayKay guy trying to sound all holier than thou for a celeb and then going batshit crazy and hurling abuses, later.

When I talked about Deepika, there was no judgment from my side on HER for taking drugs or for the DRUGS that she takes. I said she takes antidepressant and haash . This news is in the public domain. It is not something that I made up on my own. Or were you splitting hair and taking offense at some word I used?

Then in the same vein , I took offense at you indirectly making a judgment on Ranveers’ fashion sense. I got offended at you talking bad about high fashion and the snarky comments u made indirectly making fun of Ranveers’ dressing sense. You even bought in Prithvis’ video(like he knows better) and his snarky comment on Ranveers’ attire, to prove a point.

I find your underhand putdown of him and his dressing sense offensive. I took offense because I think he as an entertainer has every right to express himself creatively in the fashion field.

I might find people making indirect comments on someones’ fashion more offensive than calling them out in the open.

Who is to say your sense of offense is better than mine? Anyone can take offense at anything. So my response.

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2021

Wish I could stay here and press more of uncle Kaykays’ buttons so that I can see him Jump up and down like a Monkey with ants in his nutsack and give us some more laughs. It was fun, very much like watching one of those senior citizens/grandpas going batshit crazy videos on youtube. But I have a New Year getaway where I will have no access to the net. I think I have wasted enough time on you insignificant piece of shit.
Life is too short to be spending time in the company of a fucking old loser reading and writing sleazy stuff on the net while scratching his balls/catheter and frothing up his mouth like a rabid dog.

Pretending to feel offended for an actor while u are the slimiest and most wile senior citizen around here. You are fooling nobody, Jackass.
The desperation shows you asshole. And Fuck you motherfucking bitch.

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“Everyone can have their own opinions and this is the internet” – Clearly, that is, except when it’s opinions on what YOU, the self anointed expert of fashion, call high fashion in which case we have to write to you dear Mr/Ms 2021 to ask permission to comment.

“I find your underhand putdown of him and his dressing sense offensive. ” – Then cry me a river of the red juice that overfloweth from your bleeding heart.

If you’re oaf enough to not understand that bringing ‘high fashion’ into a zoom interview shot from a home/hotel room and thereby turning oneself into verily a living mannequin would attract negative comments, nobody can help you. I would have nothing to say if Ranveer took his high fashion outdoors. Hell, he could run naked down Marine Drive for all I care. But if he wears a hat and sunglasses to a zoom interview, I am going to call it out for what it is. Just because you love high fashion doesn’t mean you HAVE to switched on 24/7 in embodying it. His head wouldn’t shatter to a thousand pieces if he wore something more occasion-appropriate.

Now that doesn’t mean I am going to personally head over to wherever he is to disrobe him. I don’t even tweet at him or any celebrity’s account nor on Facebook. But I am going to have my say here and there’s nothing you can do about it other than hurling ludicrous insults and working yourself up into a lather. So do carry on for it’s immensely entertaining. Your foaming-at-the-mouth is already making Bangalore’s polluted lakes blush so I look forward to what new highs you shall ascend to.

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So, Mr/Ms2021

I should know better by now that sounding like a hyper-caffeinated character from a Tarantino flick is a losing proposition in a debate as eventually all parties end up like Idris Elba and his daughter in The Suicide Squad yelling F… Yous at each other for a full minute.

So, while I don’t apologize for my stand, I do for the manner in which it was made. So, my FINAL clarification below will contain NO expletives:

My SPECIFIC issue…repeat SPECIFIC issue was you referring to Rishi Kapoor as an “Alcoholic and Wife Beater”. While this comment was made in context of your larger comment on Ranbir Kapoor, my beef is with the Rishi comment.

Since I am not immersed in Bollywood Gossip or Celeb Lifestyles, I can only (vaguely) recall this interview you mentioned where Ranbir spoke about his parents fights.

Far as I know, Rishi had a pretty good reputation as an overall nice guy in the industry. (If you have evidence to the contrary, provide a link (something a little more factual and not just scurrilous gossip please) ).

If Rishi indeed did have a drinking problem at some point in his life, does that qualify him as an alcoholic? Did he have a drinking problem right up to his death? Evidence?

The “Wife Beater” comment is probably the most loaded one. Even acknowledging he frequently fought with Neetu and may even have had frequent yelling matches, a wife-BEATER that does not make him. Any evidence? Did Neetu file a police report, were domestic abuse charges filed? Once again, link it or it did not happen!

And finally, it’s one thing to call out Ranbir as an under-talented, over-privileged and super-entitled star son and rail against nepotism (I may not agree on the talent part but quite a few other star children fit that description perfectly), quite another to take pot-shots at his father, who’s been dead for a year and half, that too just before his 41st anniversary of married life with a woman who all evidence points to have loved him dearly.

Last, but not least, this other form of entitlement aka “I reserve the right to dump on anyone I choose regardless of whether the statements are factual or outright hearsay because I have an internet connection and the social media is my digital carpet and I’ll take a steaming dump on any corner of it I choose”…by all means, exercise that right, and I’ll exercise mine to call you out on it as and when I find the stench unbearable.

The supreme irony of your statements regarding your right to an opinion has been pointed out by The Warrior above and I need not regurgitate it.

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Oh…and my final word to you, Mr/Ms2021, regarding your conjecture that I’m either a late 20s incel or a late 60s grandfather, let me paraphrase the great Luke Skywalker in the Last Jedi:

Impressive. Every word in that post was wrong:-)

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Thupparivaalan

2021:

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Voldemort

Rabid dog. Frothing at the mouth. And a certain fondness towards KayKay.

Reminds you of a certain someone. RR is that you?

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sai16vicky

I am surprised KayKay is getting this kind of targeted ad hominem, that too on a space he has inhabited (with his wit and wisdom!) all these years. I maybe stating the obvious here but he is easily one of the finest commenters on this blog (right up with the likes of Madan, MANK, Rahini and the list goes on).

I really hope the moderation kicks in here to ensure sanity prevails.

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@sai16vicky: I am a big fan of KayKay too. I am surprised that it went as far as it did. This is one of the most violent comment spaces I’ve come across in this blog.

I am also wondering at what point does moderation become important.

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So, Mr/Ms 2021, you have the right to take offence at something I or the other commenters said about Ranveer’s fashion sense, but we have no right to be offended by it? I fail to comprehend your logic.

You have a right to an opinion expressed on social media, but I don’t have a right to an opinion on what I see/hear on said social media? There was nothing underhand about my comment on Ranveer’s fashion – I find it weird. But that only means that it is not something I will wear. I will defend his right to wear whatever he wants whenever he wants. My opinion on this matters not a whit to the man.

I’m excoriating him for wearing it, or trolling him for it, or asking for him to be banned because it offends me. (As an aside, it doesn’t offend me. Finding something weird does not mean that I am ergo, offended by it.) I wager that if I were ever to meet the man and laugh about his fashion to his face, he will be less offended than you seem to be on his behalf. Simply because Ranveer is supremely confident in himself.

The irony of you talking about Prithvi’s fashion sense or lack thereof in the very same post you excoriate all of us for remarking on Ranveer’s fashion sense it too delicious to be missed.

And that said, Double Kay’s response to you was provoked by your own language and tone, so cry me a river that you were served a dose of your own medicine. For what it is worth, KayKay does post double entendre (and he’s an equal opportunity offender) but I’ve never known him to be sleazy or misogynistic.

Anyway, to continue this discourse is pointless. So, be my guest. Flame away.

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*I’m not excoriating him…. etc., etc., etc.,

(Correcting it, lest that sentence is misconstrued.)

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January 1, 2022

Thupparivalan: Hahahaha…brilliant! I should have just posted that video and saved some typing:-)
Note: Oh! Realized my error. The “incel” comment came from you and Mr. Pissed Off 2021 retorted with the “60 year old grandpa” comment at you. That’ll teach me to improve my reading comprehension:-)

Voldemort: 2021’s writing style does have some eerie similarities with RR at his absolute unhinged best, except that the man passed away about 8 years ago.

sai16vicky: Thank you thank you for the compliment. Well, I got some accountability here too. If you choose to jump into the sewer, then don’t complain about shit stains on your clothing. My response could have been more measured but Mr/Ms 2021’s combination of dumping on a dead celebrity coupled with a Twitter Mob’s entitlement put a serious bug in my ass which led to a far snarkier and let me just admit it, nastier response than one I would normally have given.

madhusudhan194: Thank you. It went as far as it did owing largely to what I suspect is the age of our raging, super-triggered 2021:-) The completely unhinged responses, with multiple usages of “Uncle”, “Grandfather”, “Old Fart”, “Catheter” leads me to hypothesize that while Mr/Ms 2021 may no longer have acne or growth spurt issues, I hope the so called…”New Year’s Getaway” (Ahem!) he/she is heading to isn’t serving alcohol since I don’t believe he/she has reached a Legal Drinking Age:-)
Note: I do realize the above statement is equally Ageist in the other direction. Am sure there are plenty of young commenters here displaying far more maturity, rationality not to mention class than Mr/Ms2021 is capable of.

The Warrior: Thank you for the support. I suppose all of this does have a bright side. After the lamented departure of RR, I thought I was losing my touch at driving someone completely up the wall. But looks like this “Old Fart Uncle/Smellfungus/Motherfucking Bitch/Jackass/Fucking Asshole” still has it:-)

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anon

January 2, 2022

Kay Kay man come on, blog comment section is dead these days and 2021 ain’t so bad. Take one for the team. I think time has distorted your memory of RR, who was nothing like 2021.

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