A plug for Madan Mohan’s book.
You can buy the book from the notionpress store:https://notionpress.com/read/raga-2-rock
As well as from Amazon: https://www.amazon.in/dp/B09WYSNBBZ
Blurb:
Ever wondered why millennials listen to old film songs from the ‘60s and the ‘70s? How did they get into the habit in the first place? Were there composers other than R D Burman operating in the golden era, and who were they? Was there any film music produced in the south of the Vindhyas? This book attempts to answer those and other questions… from the point-of-view of an inveterate film music junkie now exiled to the world of rock! So, how does one go from Mohammed Rafi to Mick Jagger?
Read on to find out.
Following is a short excerpt from the book:
I was born in Chennai and spent my infancy in Kolkata. But I grew up in Kalyan – from the age of 5 to 15. It was in a relatively sheltered part of Kalyan – a large residential complex in Kalyan (East) with shops and parks (as well as the school that I attended for most of my primary and secondary education). It was the first of its kind in a place so far away from Mumbai. So it attracted people with some aspirations – not necessarily an aspiration to live life king size (for that was yet unthinkable for most of us in 90s India), but an aspiration perhaps to provide their children a life they could not enjoy.
You could see the makings of nuclear family India here. Families lived in one or two BHK flats (none bigger than two BHK were offered) and were usually no bigger than six or seven people per family. Only a few of the families depended on a business for income; most had one or more parent working in government or in private sector enterprises. Most of the women who worked were teachers; at least, that’s how I remember it.
Thus, the environment I grew up in was relatively ‘posh’ by Kalyan standards but it was nevertheless a place that was over 50 km away from Mumbai CSMT. We were all here because we couldn’t afford to live in Thane or Borivali, let alone somewhere in the heart of Mumbai. Albeit, at this stage, it was the parents of me and my schoolmates and other friends in the complex who understood this. We were in a bubble of our own, far away from Mumbai but still connected to its culture. Not only because most of our parents, particularly the fathers, worked in Mumbai, but also because Bollywood was all over the TV stations.
It’s funny to think that reminiscences of film music usually involve the author discussing memories of listening to songs on the radio. Funny for me, that is, because radio was almost absent in my formative years and certainly didn’t influence my musical experiences.
And the reason is not what you may think. No, it wasn’t because TV had rendered radio obsolete. It was more because the AM signal was feeble and you didn’t yet have private FM stations like Radio City, Radio Mirchi and others. But TV channels filled up the primetime hours with film music jukeboxes, playing the most ‘in demand’ songs of the week one after the other.
And so, like any 90s kid growing up in Western or Northern India, Main Mila Tu Mili (the rap bit in the song Yeh Kaali Kaali Aankhein from the film Baazigar) was very much a part of my childhood. Yessir, I watched the film a bunch of times, including once when I was under medication after an asthmatic attack. Many of my teachers lived in the same complex and one of them paid a visit home to check on me and found me watching said film. No, I didn’t have to do a detention assignment!
I kept hearing the latest hit songs of the time on TV and knew most of them well (this, when I was about 8 or 9). But events would conspire to take me down the rabbit hole of old Hindi film music.
It started with my father’s own listening habits. As someone who had grown up in the 60s and who would have been well into his teens when Aradhana came along, he had already seen it all. He had lived through the Urdu-laced ghazal sensibilities of film music in the 60s, particularly the songs Rafi sang for Dilip Kumar or Rajendra Kumar. He had watched Kishore Kumar steal the show in the 70s under R D Burman’s baton. He had then seen things go very much down the drain in the 80s. By the 90s, he generally found contemporary film music disappointing at best and disgusting at worst. He was capable of making exceptions for the odd gem like the Majrooh-penned, Jatin Lalit composition Ae Kash Ke Hum. But by and large, he hated it. He took a particular dislike to Kumar Sanu’s style of singing.
I cannot say today if I was simply imitating him or if I was influenced by his choices and by the old songs he played on the cassette deck.
However it may have been, I found myself beginning to notice what he was saying about Kumar Sanu. I began to dislike his singing on songs like Churake Dil Mera. I began to find tunes like Jaanam I love you you love me irritating.
In the meantime, my aunt who lived in the US had gifted me a video cassette of Jungle Book and I had watched and enjoyed it very much. I noticed the lush, orchestral instrumentation in the background score as well as the songs in the film and couldn’t help compare the tacky production values of reigning Bollywood numbers unfavourably with them.
I knew this – this being the latest Nadeem Shravan/Jatin Lalit/Anu Malik hit – was what I was supposed to listen to. I knew this because this is what my classmates/schoolmates listened to and this is what they wanted me to listen to. But I began to believe that this wasn’t where I would find beauty in music and the greener pastures of yesteryear music were more promising in that regard. Colour me biased but had I not held that rather strong opinion, I would have never headed down the rabbit hole. Should I have been ‘open minded’ about 90s Hindi music and thus not invested energy in tracking down the old gems? I don’t know.
Rahini David
April 3, 2022
I was thinking about enquiring about this book. I guess no Kindle version is available. Will read and get back. Just ordered.
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Madan
April 3, 2022
Thanks a lot Rahini! Kindle version will be available. Maybe in a week to ten days time. Will update on this thread.
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Anand Raghavan
April 3, 2022
Congrats Madan, Eager to read !!
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Jayram
April 3, 2022
Congrats, Madan! Looking forward to reading it once the Kindle version is available.
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Aman Basha
April 3, 2022
Congrats Madan! Looking forward to reading it.
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Madan
April 3, 2022
Thanks Anand, Jayram, Aman. Heads up: I am offering free shipping from tomorrow on notionpress for two weeks. So I suggest anyone interested in acquiring the paperback version to head to Notionpress rather than Amazon. I ordered the Italian-Tamilian cartoonist writer’s book from the former and had no problems.
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GM
April 3, 2022
Thanks for taking time to write it. When will it be available at amazon.com?
Regards,
GM
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Madan
April 3, 2022
GM: Thanks for your interest! Should soon be available on amazon.com. Will let you know once it is.
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sravishanker1401gmailcom
April 3, 2022
Madan paiyya – This is awesome news! I’m thrilled that you were able to get to the finish line and (as you might have discovered) the feeling is incomparable. Will order tomorrow for sure.
“Italian-Tamilian cartoonist writer’s book” ROFL. Took me a minute to get the crack!
Best wishes from Zola perippa
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Madan
April 3, 2022
Sravishanker: Thanks a lot sir! Indeed the feeling is incomparable. I must also put in a word here in favour of their professionalism. They committed a date for the book going live and they kept it, maybe beat it by a couple of days. I told them I am so impressed because I have never seen anyone completing a project on time in India. As they pointed out, I did help them by completing any deliverables of mine before or on schedule without fail.
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Karthik
April 3, 2022
Congratulations, Madan! Look forward to reading this! And lovely cover art!
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sanjana
April 3, 2022
Congratulations and best wishes.
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Madan
April 3, 2022
Karthik: Thanks a lot and glad to know you liked the cover art. Looking forward to your thoughts on the book.
sanjana: Thanks a lot.
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Macaulay Perapulla
April 3, 2022
Congratulations Madan. This is wonderful. Will buy the kindle version. Eagerly looking forward!
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Madan
April 3, 2022
Thanks a lot Venky! Will surely update once the kindle version becomes available.
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Anuja Chandramouli
April 3, 2022
Congratulations Madan! Look forward to reading your book.
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Madan
April 3, 2022
Thanks a lot Anuja
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anonymousviolin20
April 3, 2022
Congrats on the book Madan!
Looks like I can’t get the book in my location, but I hope that a digital/online version comes out soon. Looking forward to reading this!
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Madan
April 4, 2022
anonymousviolin: Thanks a lot! It will very soon be available in US/UK. In a matter of a week at most, it would basically be available anywhere and everywhere in paperback and kindle.
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H. Prasanna
April 4, 2022
Congratulations, Madan. All the best for this book and the future ones!
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Madan
April 4, 2022
H Prasanna : Thanks a lot! I do hope there will be future ones on this subject. I have skimmed the surface here. This is a trial balloon. The ‘deep dives’ will follow. Not that there aren’t deep dives within this book but it isn’t ONLY deep dives.
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An Jo
April 4, 2022
Congratulations Madan. God knows how you find time to write, comment, write books, read politics, and still keep your job. Kudos. I can’t even do one thing properly at a time.
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Macaulay Perapulla
April 4, 2022
“I began to find tunes like Jaanam I love you you love me irritating.”This is very interesting. The other day, I was listening to the Kathir AR Rahman era songs where it was cool to include english lines and we were swayed by those 1 or 2 English words/lyrics in songs Today, it is fascinating to see the trend reversed. Today, amidst everyday maane ponmane quotidian lyrics, thamarai or vairamuthu in his hey days, beautifully insert 1 or 2 quaint tamizh words and those have become cool (at least in my tamizh appreciation circles). We may ignore the whole song. But those one rare word tossed into the word salad makes whole lot of difference.
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An Jo
April 4, 2022
In Hindi at least, ARR has gone to the dumps scoring music for such trash…youth one says? There once was a film named JAANE TU YA JAANE NAA…Somewhere else I commented…
Catchy beats for the Tiger Shroff song…but disgusting to see ARR reduce himself to singing ‘THE FUC**ER’… \
Coming from the great man himself, that we have viewed and listened to such FANTASTIC songs…”dafatan”, that mersmerizing magic pot of NYC’s Times Square and Old Delhi..
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Madan
April 4, 2022
AnJo: Thanks a lot! Truth be told, I don’t know either, haha. Guess God has been kind. Maybe because I am honest and diligent, I get a pass for these indulgences from most of the people I have reported to. But I couldn’t really have it another way. I couldn’t shut off this side of me, I would find it suffocating. And I know there are others who can and do devote 24/7 to work. There’s nothing wrong with that. But it isn’t for me.
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Madan
April 4, 2022
Venky : Yes, although i wasn’t necessarily referring to the Hinglish part of it there but the song itself (a certain ‘cheapness’ pervaded Hindi music in the 90s), it’s very true that the trend has reversed. The smart Hinglish lyrics of Shamitabh songs got panned by some critics because now the expectation is to dream up more fancy Urdu words than anything Shakeel, Sahir or Gulzar would have dared use. I present the lyrics of Phir Le Aaya from Barfi as exhibit A.
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Rahul
April 4, 2022
Congrats and best wishes Madan. I may not be able to read it because of a general lack of time , but I hope your book does well. You may consider posting about it in rmim https://groups.google.com/g/rec.music.indian.misc
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Madan
April 4, 2022
Thanks Rahul and thanks for the suggestion. I will look it up and probably list it there.
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Heisenberg
April 4, 2022
Congrats Madan. Your posts and comments on music have always been very insightful. Looking forward to read it some time soon.
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Madan
April 4, 2022
Heisenberg : Thanks a lot!
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krishikari
April 4, 2022
Congrats Madan! I am musically very ignorant but looking forward to reading the book. The excerpt is very engaging.
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Madan
April 4, 2022
Thanks a lot krishikari, glad you enjoyed the excerpt. That’s already a big vote of confidence.
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satishkvasan
April 4, 2022
Congratulations Madan. Ordered the book.
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Madan
April 4, 2022
satishkvasan : Thank you so much! Happy reading!
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Madan
April 4, 2022
@all who ordered or intend to: pl so leave your reviews on amazon/notionpress. Let me also see if I can create a goodreads listing for the book.
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Ashok Sharma
April 4, 2022
Congratulations Madan. Look forward to reading it.
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Madan
April 4, 2022
Thanks a lot Ashok!
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Maru
April 4, 2022
Congratulations Madan, the cover looks cool and the excerpt sounds interesting. I’ll look for the international digital version. It great that you have been able to channel your knowledge and interest into a project like this. Here’s to success with this one and hopefully much more in the future.
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Madan
April 4, 2022
Thanks a lot Maru. Will certainly update once the international version is available. Yes, there will be a digital one available abroad too.
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Eswar
April 4, 2022
Hey, Madan. Congratulations. I enjoyed that transcript. There is so much personal history. I will get a copy.
Regarding Goodreads, once you have an author page setup, you may have to migrate this under your list of works 🙂
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55077429-democracy.
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Yossarian
April 4, 2022
Congrats Madan! Looking forward to reading the book.
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Madan
April 4, 2022
Eswar : Thanks a lot! Glad you mentioned that personal history thing. I found that my write up on a TV contest rendition of O Butterfly and likewise on life in the 90s were particularly received. Describing how I experienced life in general and music in particular is a tone that works for me so I leaned into that for this book. In that regard, the very last chapter (an appendix, actually) is my personal favourite
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Madan
April 4, 2022
Yossarian : Thanks a lot!
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Ashok Sharma
April 4, 2022
“In Hindi at least, ARR has gone to the dumps scoring music for such trash…youth one says? There once was a film named JAANE TU YA JAANE NAA…Somewhere else I commented…”
AnJo: it is not clear if you are trashing Jaane Tu… or praising it. I started following ARR only after this album for its jazz overtones. His music has grown on me ever since. I believe his style underwent a massive transition after that and for good.
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YAML92
April 4, 2022
Congrats Madan! Looking forward to reading the book once it’s available in the US market!
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Doba
April 4, 2022
Congratulations and best wishes Madan :).
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Ashok Sharma
April 5, 2022
Madan – I guess I will have to wait until it is released outside India or on Kindle. I am quite intrigued as I have followed your music posts here with a lot of interest. I am curious to see how you discovered such an eclectic range of genres in your musical journey from Rafi to Jagger, with ARR, RDB, and Gentle Giant to Dave Brubeck in-between.
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An Jo
April 5, 2022
@Ashok I am trashing the Tiger Shroff DA FA KAR music. What I meant to say is even if one is catering to the youth completely, there were gems like JAANE TU YA JAANE NA in the past. One can make score peppy, trendy music with modern wordings without resorting to double entendre. Unfortunately ARR is now forced to make such music and even lend his voice to such.
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Madan
April 5, 2022
YAML92: Thanks a lot! Hope you will enjoy it.
Doba: Thanks a lot.
Ashok Sharma : I do answer that question to some extent in the book, as in the part about how Gentle Giant or Brubeck got in the midst of all this film music.
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Ashok Sharma
April 5, 2022
An Jo: Well, Dafakar I think is an exception, no? In general, I believe that ARR has stayed true to his form and style. Dil Bechara was an album for the Millenials and one of his best. 99 and Atrangi were good too. Unfortunately, he is not doing a lot of music these days. I remember him saying in one of his interviews that he is finding it tough to get work. Maybe Dafaka is his acquiescence.
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Anand Raghavan
April 5, 2022
@Madan, ordered the book in NotionPress.
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Madan
April 5, 2022
Anand Raghavan: Thank you so much!
As such, I am really gratified that so many of you have ordered or have said you will order just based off what I write on this blog and the excerpt and no reviews or recommendations. That means a lot.
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Madan
April 5, 2022
Ashok Sharma: I was going to say the same thing. Rahman did do brilliant work on Dil Bechara and Atrangi Re. The ecosystem, so to speak, has kind of overtaken him so he is forced to do stuff like Dafaka (or Bigil in Tamil) once in a while.
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Srinivas R
April 5, 2022
Congratulations Madan. The excerpt is terrific. Will order the book. All the best more such writing.
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Madan
April 5, 2022
Thank you so much Srinivas, happy reading!
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hari
April 5, 2022
Congrats Madan
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Madan
April 5, 2022
Thanks hari
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MANK
April 5, 2022
Congrats Madan, is this the first book that you have published?
Anyway, No one is more qualified (from our blog) to write a book about music than you
Best wishes..
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Madan
April 5, 2022
MANK: Thanks a lot! I have written three fiction works previously that went absolutely nowhere. But this is my first non fiction work. I don’t know why I never did write a full length book about music, feels like I should have a long time ago. But then, I discovered more music, more songs in the intervening period and they have all added up to my experience.
“Anyway, No one is more qualified (from our blog) to write a book about music than you” – That and all I don’t know but I am floored by your compliment. Thank you so much!
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Madan
April 5, 2022
Update: Raga 2 Rock is now listed on Amazon Prime. So you get free shipping on ordering it.
It’s also listed on flipkart here: https://www.flipkart.com/raga-2-rock/p/itmd051301a2cf05?pid=9798886299366&affid=editornoti
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Anu Warrier
April 5, 2022
Congrats, Madan. 🙂 The excerpt was interesting and makes me want to read the book. Don’t know when I’m going to find the time (in the middle of the dreaded project-from-hell) but have bookmarked your link and will definitely pick it up.
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Madan
April 5, 2022
Anu Warrier: Thank you so much! Hope you will be able to find time to read it. Given that you write so prolifically – and better than I do – on Hindi films and Hindi music, I would love to hear your views/review of the book.
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Madan
April 7, 2022
Available now on Amazon.com: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WYSNBBZ
As well as co.uk: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09WYSNBBZ
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Madan
April 7, 2022
Update : Raga 2 Rock now available on amazon.com and amazon.co.uk. Links seem to hit the wordpress spam wall but you can type the name of the book in the respective websites and get it.
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Enigma
April 8, 2022
Congratulations Madan, this is incredible.
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Prat
April 8, 2022
Congratulations! Is there some accompanying playlist?
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Madan
April 8, 2022
Enigma : Thanks a lot!
Prat : If you mean an actual mp3 playlist, there isn’t. But I have made lists of top 10 albums of the composers so that the book has hopefully some utility for listeners apart from any reading pleasure to be derived.
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Anu Warrier
April 8, 2022
@Madan, oh, I definitely will, once this project winds down or I quit. 🙂
(Yeah, that latter part is actually a possible scenario – the entire team is near revolt at the moment; it’s that bad.)
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Madan
April 8, 2022
Anu Warrier : Sorry to hear about your work situation.
Interestingly enough, I wrote this book when I was struggling with long covid and took a long leave without pay because my work situation was simply too stressful.
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sravishanker1401gmailcom
April 8, 2022
“I have written three fiction works previously”aa???!!! Tera pair kidar hai re!!
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Madan
April 8, 2022
Hahaha, they were really nothing much to write home about.
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Anand Raghavan
April 9, 2022
@Madan: Got the book. Straightaway headed to TFM page. After a respectful tribute to MSV, an astounding analysis of Raja music and period, like a much more detailed version of Subhasree’s talk in QFR. The way it has been explained was understandable to a layman in music like me. And then dawn of Rahman’s trendsetting sound beautifully drawn in parallel to India’s globalization reform. The sections have been interestingly categorised, like what makes Raja and Rahman , well Raja and Rahman, which answered a lot of questions in mind.
Will go into Hindi Film music surely, albeit slowly
Well done Madan.
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Madan
April 9, 2022
Anand Raghavan: Thank you so much for the validation! I am glad you liked the way I have arranged the sections and, yes, drawn some parallels. Encouraging also to know that at least most of it seems to have been lucid and understandable. Enjoy the rest of it!
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Madan
April 9, 2022
Had some fun making a ‘concept cover’ with a raga 2 rock theme, starting with Tukde Hain Mere Dil Se and going into Gary Moore’s Empty Rooms:
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Ashok
April 9, 2022
Oh, wow! I did a double take when you mentioned Gary Moore. Also you sound a lot like the guitar virtuoso (RIP). Good transition and nicely done!!!
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sravishanker1401gmailcom
April 9, 2022
I started with the introduction (the blurb was great too!)which sets the expectations for and guides the reader and after reading the first couple of chapters I went berserk on the buffet and landed on the Ilayaraja chapter. I simply cant believe a millennial can write with such insight on Ilayaraja! Simply brilliant writing (for lack of a higher word). Writing a highly engaging non-fiction work is difficult but you really trigger the hot buttons of the reader and make it entertaining.
I’m thinking of sharing this with some of the Ilayaraja diehards in my class but they ve simply lost the reading habit uness its a whatsapp thathuvam or reveals Modi’s ‘hidden design’ in every scheme.
I’ll be posting at intervals on this for sure while I explore this wonderful Japanese garden.
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Madan
April 10, 2022
Ashok: Thanks a lot! Gary was definitely one of my favourites, a pretty underrated bluesman to begin with. And even more underrated as a singer. He had a nice combination of melody and power.
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Madan
April 10, 2022
sravishanker: Thank you so much! Glad to know you are enjoying it so much. I used that semi auto-bio format for the very reason that it would make it more engaging. Otherwise too much analysis will make it dry if even more substantial.
FWIW share away. Whoever wants to read will read. From my point of view, every additional reader is a bonus.
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sravishanker1401gmailcom
April 10, 2022
“Jaanam I love you you love me” ROFL. There was aperiod in the nineties when Hindi music directors were copying anything and everything from the South and there was this song in a Tamil movie “Nee oru Ladka naan oru ladki” which was easy to copy and transalted as “Tu ek ladki mein ek ladka” to which my UP room mate in Baroda quipped “Bholna padtha hai!” (the hero was Puru Rajkumar)
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Madan
April 10, 2022
ROFL, I couldn’t even find the Hindi song. Maybe it was too ignominious even for Youtube.
I am sure you know about this already but Raja’s Abbanee Tiyyani Dabba in Telugu was dubbed in Hindi as Tumne Is Tarah Maara. And THEN, Anand Milind said thank you very much and copied it as Dhak Dhak Karne Laga.
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sravishanker1401gmailcom
April 10, 2022
Oh! I didnt know that! Anand-Milind should have got the Innovation Achiever s Award
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Anand Raghavan
April 10, 2022
@Madan :
Senthoora Poove song from 16 Vayadhinile, Madai Thirandhu from Nizhalgal and Idhu oru Nila Kalam from Tik Tik Tik . Would be interesting to know musicalities of those songs from your perspective?
ARR’s direct Hindi foray in mid 90s , impact of Rangeela/Taal/Dil Se in Hindi Film music scene?
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Shankar
April 10, 2022
Madan, Congratulations! Writing a book is no mean feat, and it takes tremendous amount of work, and perseverance to do so. I’m so glad you did it, and we get to read it. If you recall, I have made this request a few times, as part of our conversations in this forum, so that some of your thoughts and comments could be preserved rather than getting lost in the comments section of this blog….and that applies to many here. So, thanks again! Any option for folks like to us to buy this book, living outside the country? Thanks!
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Madan
April 11, 2022
Anand Raghavan: I will take a detailed crack at it some time. But in terms of how interesting they are, I would rank the three thus:
Ithu Oru Nila Kaalam …and by far
Senthoora Poove…less interesting but very beautiful
Madai Thiranthu…fairly generic rocker really, though it fits in that context. Compare it to the trippy Paruvakalangalin Kanavu from Moodupani and the latter is so much more interesting.
Re ARR, you may be aware that there is an ongoing Rahman series on O2 India Youtube channel where directors, singers, lyricists etc involved with various Rahman films/songs recount their memories. Both Ghai and RGV talk up a big talk about the respective albums they worked on (Taal and Rangeela) while Mani is, as usual, understated. But my own recollection is that the Dil Se album and Chaiyya Chaiyya in particular was the biggest hit and made the biggest impact of the three. Rangeela was a slow burner and it has acquired a lot of cult value and become kind of ageless. While Taal songs are barely in circulation on radio anymore and a distant third to Dil Se and Rangeela.
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Madan
April 11, 2022
Shankar: Oh so it was you? I did remember two commenters who told me to compile a book. And it was that which prodded me into writing the book. So thank you very much! I did not compile the comments or my blog posts into a book, though, and instead wrote a fresh one (which of course is going to draw upon discussions here and elsewhere).
It is available on amazon.com and co.uk. Links upthread. If you can’t find them, just email me at madanmohan85@gmail.com. Because if I post links in the comments, it gets into the spam box and asks BR to moderate it.
If those regions don’t work for you, there will be an international kindle edition pretty soon. It will also be available on Kobo and iBooks.
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Madan
April 14, 2022
Kindle version available at last! Happy reading!
Raga 2 Rock : A Mumbai Tamil’s Musical Journey https://www.amazon.in/dp/B09XVLLMW8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apan_T7PSXN5254CMHK1ZFAV0
US version:
UK:
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Madan
April 16, 2022
bump the kindle version is available in India and internationally now. Posted this a couple of days back but Beast was the hot topic then. Might still be but gonna try getting this news some attention again, hehe.
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Madan
April 17, 2022
Added the book on Goodreads, looking forward to your reviews!
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60826726-raga-2-rock
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Madan
April 17, 2022
Review by our resident cartoonist is up here and it is extremely gratifying to read. Hope the others who bought have enjoyed it just as much and if so, pl do leave your reviews:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/4672620443?book_show_action=false&from_review_page=1
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Madan
April 20, 2022
Another little bump. Kindle version available.
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Madan
April 23, 2022
Bump. Kindle available. And requesting everyone who has received and read the book to leave a review either on amazon or on goodreads. Both will also do splendidly! 😉
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Cathy
April 30, 2022
Congratulations Madan, this is such wonderful news! I loved reading the excerpt above and it brought back musical memories from my childhood days. I will check out the Kindle version soon.
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Madan
April 30, 2022
Thanks Cathy, happy reading. Looking forward to your thoughts after you have read it.
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KayKay
April 30, 2022
Oops! How did I miss this? Well, Late-a Vantalum, Latest-a varuven!
Congratulations Madan. So your mellifluous musical musings is now a 200+ page book I can hold and read over a warm masala chai on a lazy weekend? Sold! Went to Amazon and 1-clicked it to my cart. Bought the actual book though. Not into Kindle or any other form of e-book. I quote the late, great Stan Lee who said “Reading something electronically is like breasts. They may look good on screen, but I’d rather be holding it in my hands”
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Madan
April 30, 2022
Thanks a ton KayKay both for buying and for blessing this thread with another inimitable and irresistible KayKayism. Happy reading!
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Madan
April 30, 2022
Here’s my ‘moody blues’ ’cause I am kinda moody right now – Hui Shaam Unka followed by Long and Winding Road:
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Anuja Chandramouli
May 1, 2022
KayKay! That quote is a gem. You are just sooo you!
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Madan
May 1, 2022
First instalment of a spin-off series of videos around film music. I have realized that the colourful concoction of synthesis of genres in our film music is worthy of more attention than it gets:
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Ashok Sharma
May 1, 2022
Take a bow Madan, for writing an amazing book. It hooks you right from the beginning and you want to read in one go (binge-reading?). The book is a treasure trove of albums and songs that I have long forgotten but am happy to rediscover and walk down memory lane. The expository writing style is refreshingly different from everything else that is written about these composers and their styles. I love that you have dissected the songs so well, finding patterns and instrumentation and some chord theory as well, things that would be elusive to an untrained ear.
After SJ, I immediately jumped to the section on RD Burman. I agree with you that his last album was a little underwhelming compared to his numerous masterpieces from a few years ago. However, it holds a very special place and tugs at your heart and emotions as being his last album. I also read the section on LP with great satisfaction. Yes, they drove/rode the wave of mediocrity but they were capable musicians and do have some gems such as Main Aaya Hoon (Amir Garib), Ek Pyar Ka Nagma Hai, Yeh Jeeevan Hai, Chalkaye Jaam, Dhadka hai Dil Main (Jaal, check it out). That pretty much sums up my LP list.
I also quickly parsed through the “2 Rock” part. To be honest, I was a little disappointed that it is not detailed enough and felt like a rushed job. I was hoping that you would expound on how you discovered the music that you came to love. I mean groups like Gentle Giant, Yes, Genesis or even Shakti I feel are an acquired taste and one has to go deep to find that music. I love that you mention Fifth of Firth (Steve Hackett/Genesis), which for me is among the top 5 lead solos ever but remains obscure. I am hoping that you have left this part for your next book :).
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Madan
May 1, 2022
Thanks very much Ashok for the detailed comment! I am heartened to read that you found it binge-worthy. That was what I was going for, to keep it readable without making it ‘too light’. In my mind, the book had to have some ‘meat’ to justify itself and couldn’t just be a breezy condensation of wikipedia nor an ultra-technical deep dive which would be too much to get through. I also did something that I criticized OTT writers for, lol – cover bases instead of over-focusing. That’s why I wrote on both Hindi and Tamil, included both reminiscences and analysis and even appended top 10 lists. The idea was to give something for everyone in the book.
As for the 2 Rock section, it wasn’t so much rushed as I was forced to keep it succinct, maybe too succinct, yes. I am definitely very much interested in writing THAT book but as I have mentioned in the intro of the book, I am not sure what is the readership for it. But I know now that I have one reader for it in you and another friend who expressed the hope that I would write the 2 Rock instalment. That is pretty much how this book was born – because two people asked if I had considered writing a book instead of a blog. So let’s see. Maybe it will happen. I would certainly enjoy writing that book immensely…dare I say more than I enjoyed this one. The sheer variety of genres and artists in Western as well as the fact that the discovery was compressed majorly into my twenties made it a more exhilarating ride.
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Madan
May 1, 2022
Ashok: Would love if you could also leave a review either on Amazon or Goodreads. Preferably Amazon as that’s the marketplace end of the day.
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Ashok Sharma
May 1, 2022
Madan, I am loving your audio version of Raga 2 Rock. Keep it going.
Musical discovery and appreciation can come from the strangest of places. I was listening to this BBC podcast called The Desert Island Disc, where the celebrity guest is castaway to a desert island with only a handful of belongings including 8 of their most favorite songs. The guest was Robert Plant. So he starts off with the usual – blues, early rock n roll, jazz influences. And then out of the blue came this. In his own words –
“My family was in a little street in West Brom and there was a Gujarati family who lived the other side of the doorway,” says Robert, “and they were busy cooking dhal, frying up onions and spices and listening to this music. So I used to knock on their door… and they’d bring me in and give me a bowl of a ghee-laden dahl and I’d just sit and listen to this music.”
“It just epitomises the extravagance of colour and goodness knows what else about this era of Indian Bollywood music. It’s just insane – listen to this orchestration and stuff – it’s just magnificent and the food was great.”
The track is Raha Gardishon Mein Hardam by Mohammed Rafi.
Wow! It just blew my mind. I mean fancy this guy loving Raha Gardishon Main Har Dam
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Jayram
May 1, 2022
Fascinating story, Ashok! Thanks for sharing.
https://www.loudersound.com/features/passage-to-india-the-true-story-of-zeppelin-s-secret-bombay-sessions
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Madan
May 1, 2022
Ashok: Wow! I never knew about this. You should gather such insights and write at least a blog, if not a book of your own. I am blown away. While I am not a dyed-in-wool LZ fan, obviously I do like plenty of their stuff and for some weird reason, the thought of Plant saying all that about Raha Gardishon makes me happy!
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sravishanker1401gmailcom
May 2, 2022
Methinks someone will make a killing just collating KayKayisms – our own Dorothy Parker
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Madan
May 6, 2022
Pt 2 of my Why Film Music series is up. This time I have selected a few Raja instrumental sections which evoke prog rock/funk/jazz-fusion. By jazz-fusion, I mean more like RTF, JLP, DiMeola, Weather Report rather than Shakti/L Subramaniam kind of Indo-Western fusion (which also Raja has done plenty of).
pt 3 will be the last part devoted to Raja before I move to Rahman and then the others. Thinking of doing a top 10 interludes but looks like top 10 won’t be nearly enough, haha.
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Madan
May 15, 2022
Part 3 will take some more time to put together. In the meantime, here’s ‘only rock’ and no raga – a cover of Pink Floyd’s Time:
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Ashok Sharma
May 20, 2022
Thanks for sharing Jayram.Never heard these before. This is probably the earliest fusion of this kind?
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Madan
May 20, 2022
Ashok : Is there a new comment from Jayram that I am unable to see or are you referring to the article about Led Zep in Bombay?
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Ashok Sharma
May 20, 2022
Hi Madan – yes, this was in response to his post on Led Zep’s sessions in Bombay. For some reason, I got the mail notification only yesterday and thought it was a new post.
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Jayram
May 20, 2022
Hi Ashok, not sure why you couldn’t see my Led Zep sessions in Bombay post earlier.
To answer your question, yes there was an earlier fusion with the Dave Brubeck Quartet and the legendary mridangam vidwan Pazhani Subramania Pillai. Please listen:
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Ashok Sharma
May 21, 2022
Hi Jayram, This is pretty cool stuff. I love it. I am not sure if it can qualify as fusion though. By the sound of it, it looks more like a solo piece jam. But good stuff. Coincidentally, I have a friend, a bass guitarist, who plays off on and on with Dave Brubeck sons.
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Jayram
May 21, 2022
You may be right about this being more a jam than fusion, Ashok. But I must say these legends were on another level that day and gelled well together. It’s like you’re there in person.
That’s cool to know about your bass guitarist friend. What’s his name by the way?
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Madan
May 22, 2022
The third part is going to take still longer as it has snowballed into something more ambitious than I wanted to do (aka NOT top 10 interludes). In the meantime, here’s my rendition of a song which has ‘raga’ and ‘rock’ rolled into one – En Kadhale:
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Madan
June 3, 2022
Did Pal. Posting it here rather than the LK thread.
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Madan
June 12, 2022
Finally, Part 3 of the Why Film Music. This is sort of the video companion to the ‘What Makes Ilayaraja Ilayaraja’ section in my Ilayaraja chapter.
In both the video and the blogpost link, I have given a somewhat edited transcript of the video as well. This is for at least until I get to the point where I stop slurring the words!
https://rothrocks.wordpress.com/2022/06/12/why-film-music-part-3-what-makes-ilayaraja-ilayaraja-ninnu-kori/
I wanted to use the keyboard this time and play the bassline and the keyboard chords to better highlight how independent the bassline is. Unfortunately, the mix is just not clear enough for someone like me to be able to play the exact bass notes. Either I would have to be at a super accomplished level, the way Prasanna was able to show how weird the guitar chords for Ilaya Nila really are, or I would need a super duper studio like Rick Beato to isolate the bassline layer and be able to identify the exact notes. OR I am just a tech dinosaur. So if there IS a cheaper and faster way to do it, pl do tell and I will gladly incorporate it in the next video though that won’t be about Raja.
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Madan
June 13, 2022
Not sure where else to post this, but submitted this story to a competition. Do have a read and if you like it, pl do leave a rating. Thanks!
https://notionpress.com/en/story/ssc/15220#
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Madan
June 17, 2022
Summed up the best reviews Raga 2 Rock has received here:
The reviews have been as overwhelming and as validating as the gatekeeping has been, well, whatever it may be.
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Aman Basha
November 30, 2022
I hope posting this here is appropriate, this above here is a cover of Naanagiye Nadhimoolame from Vishwaroopam 2, but in Hindi, sung by Shri Madan Mohan and with lyrics by Yours Truly. Hope people give it a listen and let me know what they think.
@Madan: Extremely sorry for the delay but I had been planning a surprise of sorts that hasn’t worked out as quickly as I thought it would and hence the delay. Hope you don’t mind.
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Madan
November 30, 2022
Aman Basha: Oh wow, thanks a lot! The video editing is beautiful. I had legit started wondering if you had covid or something. 😛
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