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Interview: Dhanush, with The Russo Brothers (The Gray Man)
Posted on July 22, 2022
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Baradwaj Rangan 
KaaviyaThalagani
July 22, 2022
(Might have posted this comment more than once)
First question – their answer is a load of nonsense. By that logic, piracy is more affordable than Netflix also and preserves your movies for way longer.
The best prints to so many tamizh movies are still on piracy sites, not on some streaming platform!
Also Netflix & Amazon don’t have pay-per-view, so theatres in TN are definitely way more affordable than a netflix or MUBI subscription, IF the audience is only interested in that ONE Dhanush or Vijay film. Otherwise, they’ll be paying for a whole bunch of other movies and TV shows that they don’t want. They might appreciate the bargain later but that’s not what they set out to do.
Most importantly, its kinda their job as filmmakers to tell us what the best way it is to watch their film and that’s always – ALWAYS going to be the big screen especially with the right kind of sound and projection.
Creating that level of experience at home with a home theatre is way more expensive than getting a ticket. Getting a smartphone or computer with a viable internet connection for NETFLIX is way more expensive than getting a ticket, atleast here.
Fuck these bozos, if you pardon my french.
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Madan
July 22, 2022
You can fight the good fight, friend, but we’ll lose. Have you tried listening to music on spotify? I only recently did because some friends wanted me to make a Raja playlist (that gives me ideas for what should be my next vid series). As much as I appreciate the convenience of spotify, the sound is passable at best and shit on many songs (and Raja song sound quality is already thagidathom to begin with). It is what it is. I have written on Lydian’s videos also to at least offer 320 kbps on bandcamp. I get that there is no point manufacturing CDs for a dozen people at best who may buy but releasing the high quality digital rip shouldn’t be a problem.
Just make it available (as long as the economics work) is all I am saying. But the oldest problem in showbiz is the buffs don’t care about these things and the connoisseurs don’t pay often enough. The wallet wins end of the day.
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thiyageshv
July 22, 2022
Piracy is more affordable than Netflix is a flawed argument if you want to counter them. Piracy is of course not ok because not all parties make money. And I am not sure if you are really living in TN, but watching movies is not cheap. Maybe a bit less, outside of Chennai but in no way it is cheap if you are going as a family. Madhavan put this beautifully in a previous interview with BR – when someone goes for a movie with an average family of 4, it is usually a big event – they pay for movie tickets, the confectionaries, the parking ticket, and probably dinner outside. It is comments like this assuming that everyone needs a home theatre experience that comes out as elitist. Tamil Nadu historically has been a Satellite TV market for decades now and we probably weren’t having home theatre experience back then. And the fact that Netflix in India has a mobile-only plan pretty much sums up how no one cares about the theatre experience.
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KaaviyaThalagani
July 22, 2022
Hey man, this is long, but bear with me, try not to jump to any conclusions about whether I really stay in TN or something. Stay on the same page and don’t try to constantly bust my balls. I see your POV, you can try to see mine, and Madan’s and others.
We aren’t elitist connoisseurs or something, we’re also greedy, miserly consumers. Exactly like everyone else.
I wasn’t saying anyone NEEDS a home theatre or anything ignorant like that.
I was just covering a range of options where the film’s print and sound were (relatively) uncompromized, assuming ofc that all filmmakers and all filmmaking is not lazy and deserving of the best projection and final screen to experience.
YES PIRACY is wrong, nobody was advocating for it, we were saying however, when the legitimate options suck like spotify, piracy becomes preservation, archiving, restoration.
These are not elitist ideas. They are essential.
If you feel people don’t really give a shit about what they’re watching, or whether it’s the BEST way to see the same film or piece of music (Like madan said) for the same amount of money, then ofc you are right!
Satellite TV or a cheaper Netflix (or Spotify) plan is enough to survive. We can easily all settle for whatever the OTT gods bestow upon us and ask no questions, since it is convenient and that’s what the public is digging.
BUT if like me and Madan, if you agree that ANY consumer deserves an awesome experience without compromise and you HAVE to add value for EVERY penny they pay, then Netflix SUCKS. Their 200 bucks 480p phone plan destroys the work of technicians and editors, who may have anyway been forced to cut corners in their production, since it is coming to Netflix and not releasing in theatres. Ultimately the audience loses.
Since the point in question was that AS filmmakers, they should (ideally) tell us what’s the best way to watch their work, they’re simply not doing that. And that’s why we are dunking on them.
We firmly feel an audience ALWAYS wants to watch the best version of the film they really wanna watch. They may not articulate it, they may have way more on their mind like bills and confectionaries and other family members. but that’s what they are really paying for!
Anything else is a scam, as far as this medium is concerned.
Panchangam bois like Madhavan (I’m joking I’m joking) may hide behind OTT platorms and the numbers, fully knowing they will make bank and cut a deal and it doesn’t matter to them if their audience (or critics) watched in theatre or otherwise. There is no proper evaluation of their work.
You and I cannot think like that, boss!
Coz if we do, just like Raja sir’s songs on spotify, we will only be left with diluted versions of masterworks, or just trash upon trash. Avlothaan mudichu, enjoy your weekend 🙂
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Gowri
July 22, 2022
As a film maker (creator of any art), you want the best output for your work. If u r honest & have put ur heart & soul, to make this film, would u be agreeable to a less than best display?
Would any artist agree to a cheap print of his work or any photographer agree to a pixellated image?
A true film maker will never advocate a compromise in the viewing experience of the audience.
Whether u r making ur product for tge theaters or the OTT, u have to aim for the best possible output & can’t hide behind idiotic arguements like cost etc. It is ur job to make it worthwhile for the viewer to spend that kind of money & watch ur film.
This is my opinion.
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Gowri
July 23, 2022
Regarding going to theater being an expensive proposition – post Corona people want to get out of their houses & spend some time outside either as couples or as entire families.
In cities like Chennai, with a hot humid climate, what are your options? Malls or movie theaters.
Try spending 4 hours in a mall with ur family & you will realise, a movie (tickets + parking + popcorn) is any day cheaper.
& a wholesome experience too, as opposed to mindless shopping (window or othetwise).
Dont include dinner & all man! Matinee shows r not the only shows & nobody is beating u to eat out after a movie.
Be realistic. Going to the theaters is an entertaining & enriching experience – perhaps once a month & most middle-class & higher families can fit this into their budget as a wholesome family outing.
For film makers to advocate that this experience belongs only to a select few is absolute non sense, in a country like ours where cinema is the main (only?) source of entertainment for 80% population.
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Indira Ambur
July 23, 2022
Imagine watching Jordan Peele’s Nope on TV ! Nope it’s not for TV. Go watch it on a big screen near you and enjoy the spectacle.
While Mrs Harris goes to Paris… can be watched either on TV or the big screen , what a charming little movie !!
BR you seem so busy these days it’s hard to keep up . Looks like you haven’t reviewed any telugu or Hollywood movies in a while ?
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Madan
July 23, 2022
Gowri : Yeah, counting family outing as an expense sounds… materialistic? Who’s forcing you to anyway? In the 90s, when my father actually got slack days on tour (before the first flight last flight madness), he often saw movies alone for entertainment. I have done that in my college days as well and even later by watching morning shows. You can save money if you want to by watching a 9 or 11AM show and not having anything in the intermission. Hollywood movies don’t typically run to interminable lengths so you can just wait it out till the end, step outside and fetch something cheap on the way back home. I guess you can’t get 12 rupees vadapav roadside in America but a little snack at a Chipotles or McD then?
Going out with family to watch a movie is not a chore but an outing. If it really feels like a chore, just stay home but please allow us to watch.
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Madan
July 23, 2022
“We’re talking about people denigrating the digital experience” – Huh, that must be somebody who is too old to operate a computer!
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Madan
July 23, 2022
And don’t they all use digital prints to project on theater? “Digital experience” makes it sound like you still have bundles of reel being rolled on an old style heavy analog projector. Even those who still like(d) to shoot on film like Nolan or Scorsese have to release digital prints.
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Gowri
July 23, 2022
Nobody is saying anything about digital prints or digital production (vis a vis film etc). We r talking about watching movies on phone, tablet, laptop or very small screens & hence compromising the quality – thinking nobody is anyway going to come to the theater.
What I mean is the makers cant afford to make such assumptions & use it as an excuse for putting out shoddy work.
Every creator must look for the best output for his work & use the best options/ devices/ tools available for the same, rather than make uncalled for excuses thus compromising the viewer’s experience.
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Madan
July 23, 2022
I was referring to what Russo Bros say in the interview. They claimed their soundbite about elitist theater etc was a riposte to “people denigrating the digital experience”. Hence I quipped that they make it sound like theater is some whole other world that has nothing to do with ‘digital experience’ when it’s very much a part of the same ecosystem. The whole interview as such was a lot of adjectives and buzzwords and then they get their panties in a knot over what Marty says, when he at least keeps it real and says what he means instead of hiding behind corporate lingo.
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Ravi K
July 23, 2022
Here in the US, ppl also complain about the expense of movie tickets, especially for families. But can’t think of an entertainment activity that’s cheaper than movies. Sports, comedy, live theater, amusement parks, etc. are far more expensive.
A couple of theater chains here have membership options. I pay a little over $20 a month, and I can see as many movies as I want. If I see two movies a month the membership has more than paid for itself. This is some chains’ response to MoviePass, which was a ridiculously good deal while it lasted. Too good to last!
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Ravi K
July 23, 2022
Correction: I can see 3 movies a week, but I rarely see that much. Still a great deal.
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praneshp
July 26, 2022
@ravi K: one of my best investments was buying 250 AMC stubs from my employer at that time, for $8 apiece. I stopped going to AMC in 2015, and started again in 2021. I can just exchange stubs for tickets (except if it’s a 3D movie, which have thankfully reduced in number). I’ll definitely get A-pass or whatever when I run out, it’s definitely worth the money, I agree with you.
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shaviswa
July 28, 2022
One of the major issues with going to a cinema hall to watch a movie is that you cannot do it as a family anymore. Movies are no longer made as “family movies” – i.e. catering to all tastes within the family. So if the father likes a film, the mother may not and the kids definitely won’t. And what the kids like is totally unrelatable to the parent.
When I was a kid, my parents used to take us to the latest Rajini or Kamal movies. And we could all enjoy that. But it is no longer the case. When I kids watch a marvel movie at home, I do not even go near that room as I have zero interest in that genre.
This is the main reason why I have not been to a cinema hall in a very long time now. I did not go even before the pandemic. And with OTT, I watch the movie I like at my leisure and it is no longer a family event.
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