More Oscar-season talk. This week, about the actresses.
I know people are going on about the lack of diversity at this year’s Oscars – as opposed to all those other years when people of colour hogged all the nominations, resulting in howls of protests from the whites – but the real scandal may be that Meryl Streep is not among the Best Actress nominees. So far, the actress appears to have been nominated even in the years she never made a movie – and this year, she was in three. She played a rock-star mom in Ricki and the Flash, where she did her own version of bison-liver-nibbling. “The reason we haven’t shot the movie yet,” screenwriter Diablo Cody told The Hollywood Reporter (though she was really telling the Academy), “is Meryl’s been learning to play [the guitar].” Streep was also in Suffragette, where she played… Does it matter? It’s Streep. It’s women’s rights. The film could be titled “And the Oscar goes to…” But, nothing. Streep even found time to be the narrator of Shout Gladi Gladi, a documentary about the obstetric fistula problem in Africa. Does no one in the Academy care about the obstetric fistula problem in Africa? I mean, what does Streep have to do to snag a nomination? Make a movie about Margaret Thatcher? Oh wait…
The other question about the Best Actress nominees: Why is Alicia Vikander missing from the list, for her work in The Danish Girl? She’s on screen as much as Best Actor nominee Eddie Redmayne is, and even the Golden Globes – which everyone treats with mild contempt, the rich relative you laugh at but suck up to anyway because he throws such a great party – had the good sense to nominate Vikander in the Best Actress in a Motion Picture (Drama) category. The answer, of course, is that studios play these games, and they must have felt Vikander has a better chance of nabbing an Oscar if they presented her as a supporting actress. She is literally that in the film – she supports her husband through and through, physically and mentally and emotionally, so much so that she becomes the equivalent of the Priyanka Chopra character in Bajirao Mastani. The titular characters may walk away with awards, but she walks away with our sympathies.
Charlotte Rampling is on the list for 45 Years. She plays Kate, who discovers that her husband’s long-ago girlfriend, who’d gone missing and the confirmation of whose death sets the story in motion, was named… Katya. The director, Andrew Haigh, works in minor keys, so instead of screams and ultimatums, Rampling has to play doubts and re-evaluations. Could the similarity of the names have something to do with why he married her? How do you fight a memory whose fragrance still lingers in the attic into which your husband keeps disappearing? It’s a marvellous performance in a little-seen movie – and the same could be said about Saoirse Ronan in Brooklyn. Ronan is just 21, and she’s already proved that she can be both incredibly open (her body seems a translucent thing in The Lovely Bones; you seem to be looking at her soul) and cruelly closed-off (Hanna, where she played an assassin who was all agile body, zero soul). As for Brooklyn, the critic JR Jones says it best: “The film is suffused with the sense that a person is just about to bloom.”
What does one make of Cate Blanchett, who’s nominated for Carol? To me, she’s fast becoming the Meryl Streep of her generation, a prodigiously talented actress but an emotionally distant one, someone whose technique you admire but whose characters you find hard to get into. Every time I see her, I remember what Pauline Kael wrote about Streep: “very beautiful at times, and she does amusing, nervous bits of business, like fidgeting with a furry boa… She has, as usual, put thought and effort into her work. But… there are no incidental joys to be had from watching her. It could be that in her zeal to be an honest actress she allows nothing to escape her conception of a performance. Instead of trying to achieve freedom in front of the camera, she’s predetermining what it records.” I’m torn between admiration for the “acting” and frustration that it’s not more, that there’s no being. Blanchett acts. Rampling is.
That leaves us with Jennifer Lawrence (nominated for Joy) and Brie Larson (Room). I liked them both, but may I say I liked Lawrence a little more? Oh, as a woman locked up in a room by a psychopath, Larson’s very good, but she stands on the scaffolding of a very good book that made for a very good screenplay that was handled by a very good director who knows how to let his actors breathe. It’s solid, understated work all around, a tasteful, well-organised funeral. Joy, on the other hand, is what happens when the eulogies are delivered in rap. The frustratingly uneven film’s outline is as conventional as they come (a debt-ridden woman invents the Miracle Mop, aka rags to riches) – and yet, the film doesn’t look or feel like a biopic. It looks and feels like a character study. It’s full of sharp edges, and Lawrence is one of them. Watch her in the final scenes, where she plays a super-successful business head as the loneliest woman on the planet, which I imagine is like being a good actress in addition to having magnetic star power on screen, like Lawrence. It must be lonely up there.
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MANK
January 30, 2016
Leave my Meryl Streep alone man. do you always have to take jibes at her every time you write one of these annual oscar pieces. yes she is not perfect, she has her flaws, and she has the maximum nominations all true, but but but… in the end she is meryl man, she is a goddess 🙂 now can we get on with it 😀
otherwise a good post. i haven’t seen much of the nominated performances. only JLaw in joy. the film and her performance was okay, not anything extraordinary. but i agree about the last scene of the film. she was superb at portraying the isolation of a powerful woman.
i love both Saoirse Ronan and charlotte Rampling, have not seen their nominated work. Loved Saoirse Ronan in Hanna. that was a superb action film
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Vanya
January 30, 2016
What MANK said. You really have it in for Streep! And it’s interesting that you quoted Kael, whose perspective of Streep seemed almost comically distorted. 🙂
But seriously though, it’s strange to hear you say that Streep could never be a role. To me, the clearer examples of her skill lie in the lesser movies — like the bridges of Madison county, Kramer vs Kramer, Julie and Julia, the devil wears Prada — where her ability to transform herself into another person singlehandedly renders the movie unforgettable. J&J, in particular — I watched It shortly after reading Julia Child’s autobiography, and Streep’s imagining of her felt as though the book had come alive before me! She has this ability to take an impression and breathe inner life into it (as opposed to, say, Brad Pitt’s work in Snatch).
Sorry, had to stick up for her. Back to regular programming now.
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brangan
January 30, 2016
Not at all. As I’ve said earlier, it’s only her heavy-duty “acting” performances that I dislike. I loved her in “Madison County” too, where I thought she was far better than in “Sophie’s Choice”
And her comedies too. She doesn’t get enough credit for her lighter roles.
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apex
January 30, 2016
Give it to any random gal on the street…
Any1 but Jen Law….
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Vanya
January 30, 2016
@BR: but comic roles generally get the shaft. Sad considering that “comic” actors seem to have an easier transition into serious roles than the other way around (see Emma Thompson, Sarah Silverman, Whoopi Goldberg, etc).
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Prasad
January 30, 2016
@BR
“but the real scandal may be that Meryl Streep is not among the Best Actress nominees
🙂 Considering she has got a whopping 19 nominations so far …. this is really seems like a scandal 🙂
“Why is Alicia Vikander missing from the list, for her work in The Danish Girl?”
Valid point. But there is another point why she is not nominated for “Ex Machina? Did you had a chance to see that? Very different performance.
“What does one make of Cate Blanchett, who’s nominated for Carol? To me, she’s fast becoming the Meryl Streep of her generation”
Can’t agree more on this. Sorry to say “Carol” was such a dud of a movie I was wondering what’s new in that movie for this acclaim? Just keep a LGBT story in 1950’s and try aiming for oscar? Couldn’t feel for any of the character’s in Carol. IMO the best for LGBT in the recent times is that of Adele in “Blue is the warmest colour”
” I liked them both, but may I say I liked Lawrence a little more? ”
Really? Somehow I felt Joy (Movie itself) is so cliched and the character also was so cliched and predictable. Can’t believe if it’s directed by the Same Russel who gave us American Hustle or Silver lining Playbook. I felt in in Room there was some scope for Brie to emote. Her struggle, emotional turmoil which was brought very effectively.
Did you had a chance to watch Kate in “Steve Jobs”. Very strong performance and considering she has already got a Golden globe she has a good chance in Supporting actress.
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Deepak
January 30, 2016
I love me some Meryl Streep, but your opening salvo on her reminded me of this joke by Tina and Amy during the Golden Globes – “Meryl Streep is not here tonight. She has the flu — and I hear she’s amazing in it.”
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Sutheesh Kumar. P. S.
January 30, 2016
Mank, damn right about Hanna and that trippy soundtrack by Chemical Brothers, just awesome.
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Sutheesh Kumar. P. S.
January 30, 2016
Like SRK once said “over-acting is only possible by people who can act in the first place”. Peace.
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Radhika
January 31, 2016
I think there is something to what Kael (and you) said about Streep. I’ve always found her performances amazing but never been really moved by any of them.
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l
January 31, 2016
J Lawwwwwww 😦 Poor choice
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Ram Murali
January 31, 2016
The more I reflect on this kind of commentary on invisible vs demonstrative acting (or, the way you put it, “acting” vs. “being”), the more I get why director Mahendran’s cinema was considered path breaking. Some of his movies did a fabulous job of showcasing human emotions in an exquisite fashion while not alienating the audience with too much of the arthouse-ish elements. (I also now see why you wanted to write about Balu Mahendra’s “Moondram Pirai” more than “Veedu” or “Sandya Raagam” in your tribute.)
I think the success – even if fleeting; his peak period lasted a mere 3 years from 1978-81 – of Mahendran’s cinema was not only due to his stellar writing but also the astounding performances that he was able to extract from his actors. I mean, in “Udhiri PookaL,” I could take everything on screen but teared up uncontrollably when the barber breaks down, lamenting the fact that he had to tonsure the kid’s head following Aswini’s death. It was amazingly realistic and hard hitting without giving the sense that it was a ‘performance.’
Of course, the kind of performances that he extracted from his lead actors like Rajni, Shoba, Fatafat & Sridevi were all just amazing…
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NeDhaPa
January 31, 2016
“She is literally that in the film – she supports her husband through and through, physically and mentally and emotionally, so much so that she becomes the equivalent of the Priyanka Chopra character in Bajirao Mastani. “
ROFL. Seems like this mastani has impacted you greatly. You could have used any hindi movie actress though from nirupa roy, meena kumari to priyanka, they all fit the billing.
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NeDhaPa
January 31, 2016
MANK: This is from another blog pst of Mr Bad. Cut and paste:
“Then there’s what Pauline Kael, singularly unconcerned about the opinions of the Academy, said about Meryl Streep in Sophie’s Choice. “I felt more sympathy for Meryl Streep, the actress trying to put over these ultimate-horror scenes, than I could for Sophie herself… She has, as usual, put thought and effort into her work. But something about her puzzles me: after I’ve seen her in a movie, I can’t visualize her from the neck down. Is it possible that as an actress she makes herself into a blank and then focuses all her attention on only one thing – the toss of her head, for example, in Manhattan, or her accent here? Maybe, by bringing an unwarranted intensity to one facet of a performance, she in effect decorporealizes herself. This could explain why her movie heroines don’t seem to be full characters, and why there are no incidental joys to be had from watching her. It could be that in her zeal to be an honest actress she allows nothing to escape her conception of a performance. Instead of trying to achieve freedom in front of the camera, she’s predetermining what it records.” Later, about Streep in Silkwood, Kael noted, “She has the external details… down pat, but something is not quite right. She has no natural vitality; she’s like a replicant – all shtick.”
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NeDhaPa
January 31, 2016
Do you need to hide behind Kael, BRjee? I mean throw a punch and don’t even quote P.K.
I read yet another older post (suggested under the latest blog post, Jan 2014 “lights, camera and the loser is”) and there is more of outrage on Ms M.S. However I see a pattern. You somehow have to quote P.K to make it seem that you are not in minority or it is OK to criticise a legend. Whatever you do, do not criticise Bachchan, Rajni or Kamal, at least inside India. Here is cut and paste :-))
“I’ve done this exact bit of hand-wringing in this space earlier (I’d reproduced the Pauline Kael quote that summed it up best, the one where she observed that “instead of trying to achieve freedom in front of the camera, [Streep is] predetermining what it records), but what set off a new bout of angst was the non-nomination of Julia Louis-Dreyfus for her beautiful performance as a divorced mother who finds love and then loses it and then kinda-sorta finds it again in Nicole Holofcener’s Enough Said. (Her co-star James Gandolfini is equally good – big and sad and wise and foolish – and he wasn’t nominated either.) And it isn’t just the non-nomination. Had Louis-Dreyfus lost out to some other worthy performer, we’d have just sighed and wished her better luck next time. But to lose a place in the top five to Streep and her grand parade of acting tics is just… infuriating.”
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sanjana
January 31, 2016
Streep should play Indira Gandhi.
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Shalini
January 31, 2016
The lack of diversity and the ubiquity of Streep @ the Oscars are somewhat linked, no? Admittedly, I have a bias for variety, but I have to think that if the casting powers-that-be in Hollywood had cast a wider net, we might have been spared Meryl’s Pacino-level bad performance in August: Osage County a couple of years back (a performance for which she of course scored an Oscar nomination). Just sayin. 🙂
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Punee
January 31, 2016
@BR: You read my mind about Meryl, she is so method that it shows, especially in what she considers “serious” roles. She ruined Thatcher for me- and I am a huge Thatcher fan. I think she is much better in “mainstream” roles. Loved her in Devil Wears Prada and Mamma Mia, I rewatch both movies often. She is like Aamir Khan on occasion, so obsessed with inhabiting a body, that she forgets there is a soul to it too.
Re: Bridges of Madison County, I want to watch it muchly, but the idea of my beloved Clint Eastwood being heartbroken by Meryl is too much to take. Maybe someday 🙂
Ideally, if the Oscars weren’t so snobbish and JLaw obsessed, the “Best Actress” award should have gone to the lady from The Danish Girl (I adored her in Man From UNCLE as well).
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MANK
January 31, 2016
NeDhaPa, i always took whatever Ms. Kael has to say with a big sack of salt. The number of great films, actors and directors she championed is equal to the number of great films, actors and directors she thrashed. she is the women who wanted to steal the credit of Citizen Kane from Orson welles and give to -most absurdly- to the writer for god’s sake. Remind me of a story that Robert Redford told- that once she invited Redford for lunch with her and he refused, since then he always got bad reviews from her- she could be a very mean and vindictive person. which is not to deny that she did yeoman services for film criticism. some of the reviews and pieces that she wrote – about Last Tango in Paris and all- are legends. But to criticize Meryl in Manhattan is unpardonable from my POV, In that 2 hr movie- which may be Woody allen’s best film- Woody is great, Keaton is great. Meryl just had 4 scenes and she kills it in every scene. there is a scene where woody is chasing her on the street, complaining about the book she is writing, which is going to expose their personal life – she is his ex wife-the whole scene , the way she walks, talks, both expressionless and exasperated, she is walking like a vampire- which she is in Woody’s eyes’- just keep repeating that whatever in the book is the truth of their marriage, then she finally shows some emotion and breaks out into a sly laugh and taunts him for feeling so threatened and afraid. the way her voice changes, her demeanor changes and in a jiffy just back to her old self again – its just pure magic. That is the first thing that comes to my mind every time i think of that film. i never failed to connect with her on any level. even when her performances are excessive or too mannered – like in Iron Lady or AOC- there is something about that performance or may be it is her Persona that still connects with me.
Reg: Brangan quoting Kael, no it isnt a matter of guts. I think Brangan always quote Kael because she expresses exactly what he feels about her performances. both of them seems to have the same bee in their bonnets about Meryl so instead of just passing off her views as his own, he just quotes her verbatim. it isnt like he is hiding behind her. I dont think he ever hides behind anybody to say what he wants to say. Remember, he is the guy who criticizes Rajnikanth films by staying in chennai :). He is a true Braveheart, and i dont mean Mel Gibson 😀
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apex
January 31, 2016
@ B.Ran: wished to comment on this but noted that uve already expressed it much much better in the
“The Unbearable Heaviness of Acting..” Hahaha
Nothin 2 add
Also I lovvvved the title of this post –(for more ways than one)
“The women in waiting” 🙂
@ Shalini : “The lack of diversity and the ubiquity of Streep @ the Oscars are somewhat linked, no? Admittedly, I have a bias for variety, but I have to think that if the casting powers-that-be in Hollywood had cast a wider net, we might have been spared Meryl’s Pacino-level bad performance in August: Osage County a couple of years back (a performance for which she of course scored an Oscar nomination)”
Woww. In one line, you have nailed it (& more …)
Brilliant …
Btw on a related note, and I’ve been curios bout this.
Contd from the other thread (was it the bajirao Mastaani thread where I was also active?) where you mentioned about your cute kid asking to be taken to Starbucks ??
It’s MY HUMBLE request –plz don’t say no to him, plz pamper him & take him there 🙂
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MANK
January 31, 2016
Punee, as you are so obsessed with Mastani right now, i dont think you will like Meryl or Francesca Johnson in Bridges. She choose not to follow her passions and stays back with her husband and children, rather than run away with Clint. very very unmastani like 🙂
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NeDhaPa
January 31, 2016
@Ami: ” Meryl, she is so method that it shows”
I recently chanced on a critical appraisal of M.S.Subbulakshmi
One has to know enough about classical carnatic to be able to do so.
I cannot determine the performance (acting/musicians) nuances because I am not a critic and/or not well versed in technicalities. As a member of audience, I loved Thatcher (the movie) and didn’t think M.S’s performance came in the way of my enjoyment of the fiilim.
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NeDhaPa
January 31, 2016
@MANK: lol. Well said. Baddyji is indeed a goody-goody two shoes (I mean it) and don’t disagree with much of what you are saying here. He (baddy-goody-ji) is indeed braveheart but to be truely brave heart he needs to criticise KamalSir, while in Chennai. 😉
On actors:
I love Dame Judy Dench. Something about her. I want to eat her, she is deliciously scrumptious in roles and outside too.
I watch S-i-L, just for her second minute appearance, again and again. Sir Ben is also a fav.
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NeDhaPa
January 31, 2016
One of my fav. scenes…”too late, too late”
Simply the best.
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Punee
January 31, 2016
@MANK: I have always known that and its the reason I can’t bear to watch it. C’mon, who chooses ANYONE over EASTWOOD? The lady had to be daft in every sense of the word 😛
If you think I am crazy about Bajirao, you can imagine the stratospheric heights of my Eastwood obsession. My dream is to go to America, visit Carmel-by-the-Sea and hang out near his favorite restaurant until I see him. Yep- thats my plan for an entire 15 day trip 😛
Maybe after that I will be at peace enough to watch Madison County. But even aside from that I must watch it someday, because I mean he’s directing and he’s acting- ending will probably be disappointing but I will have to steel myself to bear it.
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Prasad
January 31, 2016
MANK
“i never failed to connect with her on any level. even when her performances are excessive or too mannered – like in Iron Lady or AOC- there is something about that performance or may be it is her Persona that still connects with me.”
Partly agreed. When it come to Meryl Streep, she is such a strong personality her performances sometime appear is in borderline being Manipulative or not. As other’s are saying it all depends on the movie. Some lighter movies are good even in some serious movies like “Doubt” her performance was okay. But just take “August Osage”… thats just to the core manipulative. Could you connect with her in that? Atleast I Couldn’t. As you told he initial movies like Manhattan was good. And look at her performance in in intro scene of “Kramer Vs Kramer”… amazing. Somehow over a period of time some typecasting makes them look maybe manipulative. That’s what I felt in August Osage or Iron Lady.
While trying this just thought of Jack Nicholson. Not sure if it’s fair to compare them both. Somehow I felt he experimented with different roles and somehow I felt he even later in his career he didn’t get typecasted… “About Scmidt” or As Good as it gets”… where he was totally a different person… Your thoughts please?
Very valid point from BR about Cate Blanchet too. Some of her movies offlate definitely looks manipulative and “Carol” was a testimony for that. “Blue Jasmine was okay.
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Vijay
February 1, 2016
I really wanted Charlize Theron in the nomination.. Mad Max was her movie more than the Max himself.
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Siddhartha Srivastava
February 1, 2016
In rough order of preference, here are my ten favorites from the year:
Rooney Mara, Carol (nominated in supporting)
Charlotte Rampling, 45 Years (nominated)
Cate Blanchett, Carol (nominated)
Bel Powley, The Diary of a Teenage Girl
Sidse Babett Knudsen, The Duke of Burgundy
Saoirse Ronan, Brooklyn (nominated)
Charlize Theron, Mad Max: Fury Road
Brie Larson, Room (nominated)
Juliette Binoche, Clouds of Sils Maria
Nina Hoss, Phoenix
And I couldn’t even find room for Lawrence (Joy) and Vikander (Ex Machina), who were both great… in short, it was a great year for actresses.
I actually thought Ricki and the Flash was one of Streep’s strongest performances in years. Pity she had to be nominated for worse, caricature-ish work in The Iron Lady and Doubt. IMO, she should’ve won her third Oscar for The Devil Wears Prada or Julie & Julia (I agree, her comedic work is grossly underrated).
As for Cate (the great) – I used to feel the same, but I think her characters in both Blue Jasmine and Carol demand that kind of a theatrical, methodical performance. And that’s why she’s brilliant in both. Guess I loved Carol more than you or everyone else in the comments section. I thought it was just sublime.
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abhilashacherukuri
February 1, 2016
JLaw is SENSATIONAL and a true inspiration, not just in her performances but also everywhere else. in an age where the likes of kardashians and miley Cyrus’s are setting trends and determining aspirations of young people all over, it is so refreshing to see an actress who is letting her work do all the talking and is healthy and sane and normal. I wouldn’t be surprised if she will win more Oscars than Meryl streep and Katherine Hepburn.
And BR,the opening line man, thanks for separating sense from bull, instead of blending it and serving it with a straw like every other scribe in business. You rock!!
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abhilashacherukuri
February 1, 2016
Recognition and fame is an actor’s bread and the audience’s kutte-ka-bisket. and Oscars is the world’s largest all you can hog recognition and fame serving buffet. Meryl streep’s had her day and her awards and unlike the Filmfare, where an actor can win n number of awards, the academy loves their status, their exclusivity and love to keep people waiting and anticipating and discussing and dissing. that’s what separates Oscars from golden globes, critics choice and other shindigs. that is probably the reason why nobody has won more than half a dozen Oscars and actors like Leo still don’t have an Oscar.
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newbie
February 2, 2016
BR: “What does one make of Cate Blanchett, who’s nominated for Carol? To me, she’s fast becoming the Meryl Streep of her generation, a prodigiously talented actress but an emotionally distant one, someone whose technique you admire but whose characters you find hard to get into. Every time I see her, I remember what Pauline Kael wrote about Streep.”
I know this post doesn’t mean any actual disrespect to Streep or Blanchett, but I am having trouble with it for some reason! Maybe its the generalisation because I have never yet been not immensely impressed by either of these actresses when I watch them on screen. They both are touching new heights in a field where there is usually a fairly quick ‘use-by’ date for actresses. And the mostly larger-than-life characters that they play are in general hard to relate to but I think thats the nature of the characters. I haven’t watched Carol yet, so I am going to take Blue Jasmine for example, where Blanchett plays a character completely alien to me. I started watching it without any real interest but by the end of it, I was so terribly rooting for her character to sort out the mess she had got herself into. I wouldn’t say she ‘acted’ in it; she ‘was’ it. Or take ‘Cinderella’ where she plays the stepmother. She so finely treaded the line between presenting a caricature of the role and playing a real-life stepmother. To me, she had played the best Cinderella stepmother ever. And Galadriel, and Elizabeth and so many other roles. Her comparison to Streep presents only positives to me. Some of you have mentioned Streep’s drama and comedic abilities; she also covered the ‘action’ genre quite well. Like in “River Wild’ movie. The movie has many many plot issues, but along with the cinematography, it was Streep who made me watch the movie. I am not a trekking/rafting type, but she did make me at least want to try it once!
When watching Streep in debatable performances like the Thatcher one, its Roger Ebert’s words that I remember: “You have to be very talented to work with Meryl Streep. It also helps to know how to use her. “The Iron Lady” fails in both of these categories. Streep creates an uncanny impersonation of British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, but in this film she’s all dressed up with nowhere to go. Director Phyllida Lloyd and screenwriter Abi Morgan seem to have little clear idea of what they think about Thatcher, or what they want to say.” I think its fair to say, most gifted artistes perform best when they work with certain scripts or certain filmmakers. For example, for me, ARR does his best work for Mani Ratnam (apart from a few like Lagaan that is, which was exquisite). All the legends who we revere in Tamil cinema like Sivaji Ganesan or Kamal have done their fair bit of ‘over-acting’ roles I think; for which the blame is not theirs only and is shared with the filmmakers too. Why can’t that be the case for Streep and Blanchett?
And stating the obvious, people win Oscars for many reasons and its not just about the performance for which they are nominated. It can sometimes mean recognition for earlier work (Judi Dench got one for Shakespeare in Love but it was really about Mrs. Brown for which she was nominated the previous year), acceptance of genius talent in non-english countries (ARR got two for Slumdog Millionaire which is not his best music to say the least), pure political and financial reasons (will just say Harvey Weinstein) and personal preferences of academy voters (Brokeback Mountain lost best picture award to Crash of all movies). So Streep winning or getting nominated for performances which people may or may not consider worthy, is more to do with how the Academy works rather than with Streep.
I will end with two videos which I found today (and enjoyed).
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brangan
February 2, 2016
So for a moment, let’s forget the horrors like August Osage County and Iron Lady and The Hours, and focus on Streep at her most sublime.
Someone spoke about Manhattan earlier. Here’s a clip from one of my favourite films with her, Heartburn. See the annoyance at “you charged everthing.” The disbelief at “Do you love her?”
See how tragic the whole thing is and yet how comedy-infused, thanks to the director (Nora Ephron) too, no doubt.
This is the kind of acting I like, where great earth-shattering things happen with a touch of the tossed-off. Something the Iñárritus of the world are utterly incapable of pulling off.
See how “spectacular” (to be said the way she does in the clip below) she is here playing someone under the influence. She doesn’t overdo it one bit.
And if you’re looking for something more “dramatic,” see the wonderful clip below (a great, great film, with a magnificent screenplay). She manages to bring out a Gothic character without Gothic shtick. She does that accent thing, but how un-fake it is here, compared to her huffing and puffing in Iron Lady.
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RT
February 2, 2016
The French Lieutenant’s woman was the first Meryl Streep movie I ever saw. Brilliant movie and amazing performances from both the leads.
Like any actor, she’ll give her share of poor performances, especially now when she seems to be doing a lot more work. She needs a good director to bring out the best in her.
Rampling may have done an excellent job but her comments on the race row will probably kill her chances of winning the Oscar this year.
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brangan
February 2, 2016
RT: What comments on race? Link please? Thanks.
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apex
February 2, 2016
“JLaw is SENSATIONAL and a true inspiration”
Nothing against her but she’s slowly becoming impossible to criticise… and has Sooo many years ahead of her ..to win more and more
Due to some unknown (to myself) reason, I find Jen law irritating… (A bit like Kareena kapoor did though less than Kareena!)
By the way, a simple question– Did she deserve the oscar in silver linings play book?? (even ignoring the irritation and allergic reactions she caused) imo NO…
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MANK
February 2, 2016
Brangan, she said that diversity row is racist to whites, here you go
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/jan/22/oscars-2016-charlotte-rampling-diversity-row-racist-to-white-people
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/jan/22/charlotte-rampling-finds-herself-outnumbered-in-oscars-diversity-row
But she later clarified her stance
http://www.usnews.com/news/entertainment/articles/2016-01-22/charlotte-rampling-oscars-diversity-debate-racist-to-whites
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venkatesh
February 2, 2016
I have a theory on Madame Streep and others like her who have been around for ages.
I think the audience gets used to their ‘bag of tricks’ and they as keen, sharp performers know this and want to add something new to the mix. This leads to all sorts of accoutrements being added to their performance to hide themselves. The artifice of acting is never gone, the difference between acting and simply ‘being’ in a professional actor is a false dichotomy. They are always aware of acting and attempt to make us as audiences forget that they are acting.
And with that , how dare you all talk of Madame Streep and not put this:
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l
February 2, 2016
JLaw isn’t as talented as the media would like us to believe, this media are in collab with all the big studios who have love casting her in all franchise films.
I dont think Baradwaj’s issue with Meryl Streep is justified at all. It easily also applies to Marlon Brando.
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NeDhaPa
February 2, 2016
“I dont think issue with Meryl Streep is justified at all. It easily also applies to Marlon Brando.”
How else would a critics flex their muscle and keep scaring the actors? Movies are product of many people–writer, actor, director, cinematographer..
What if one were to critically evaluate works of a writer. He is the only one to write. What if we say the critics writing skills/ ideas/ novel are not adequate even if he is pulitzer award winner.
I know that writers are oh-so-sensitive on any criticism on their writing. Ironically they go and write things about an actor where his/her performance is really a small cog in the whole wheel of movie. e.g. an actor can be only as good as a director or story or cameraman or…
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Shalini
February 2, 2016
That’s funny, was coming here to post about “The French Lieutenant’s Woman” as an example of a Streep performance that I love only to find BR beat me to it. Incidentally, the book is a great read too – literary, haunting, and completely un-put-downable.
Coming back to Meryl, she made “The Bridges of Madison County” for me. I love Eastwood as much as the next gal, but frankly he was just a distracting mass of wrinkles in that film. :-O
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Rohith Raju
February 2, 2016
Reblogged this on Directors Blog and commented:
Sir, Excellent Review….You are my Inspiration…
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brangan
February 2, 2016
Reg. the Brando vs Streep point, Brando was a very “warm” actor. All his method stuff did not come across as “technique” but as quirks. (The actress counterpoint would be someone like Shelley Winters). But Streep and Blanchett have very cold personas, and their “technique” if sometimes the only thing you see.
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Ram Murali
February 2, 2016
Ŕeg. the Brando vs Streep point, Brando was a very “warm” actor. All his method stuff did not come across as “technique” but as quirks.
–> You put it very nicely. Among Indian actors, I usually don’t have this problem but I have found this issue of “cold personas” with a few people like Suhasini and some of KB’s regular heroines like Sujatha and Geetha. All three names that I mentioned are capable performers but esp. with a Suhasini, I always got the feeling that I was holding her character at an arm’s length and never with the kind of affection or “warmth” that I could feel for say a Srividya or a Revathi. My favorite actress of that generation has to be Saritha. She could project strength (“Mouna GeethangaL”) and vulnerability (“Agni Satchi”) in equal measure and I always felt – with probably a couple of exceptions like “Nool veli” – that I could get to the emotional depths of her character, forgetting about the performance / craft aspect. She was stupendous in “Vedham Pudhidhu,” esp. in the scene where she says, “Endha koyiluku ponaalum elaa saamiyum onnu theyn, endha veetuku vandhaalum elaa thaayum onnu theyn…vaa rasa vaa.”
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NeDhaPa
February 2, 2016
“But Streep and Blanchett have very cold personas, and their “technique” if sometimes the only thing you see.”
I will forgive you for this BR, as long as, you don’t say a word about Jodi Foster.
😉
🙂
On J.F, if you say something bad, I will never speak to you again.
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apex
February 2, 2016
“literary, haunting, and completely un-put-downable.”
Well said
Reg the french lieutenants wife ..will add ‘alluring’
Liked the usage of ‘un-put-downable’
totally agree with Shalini Aunty…
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Punee
February 2, 2016
@Shalini: Them’s are fighting words! 😀 I love me my mass of wrinkles 🙂 I used to have a huge CE poster at my workspace with the words “Getting Things Done” inscribed below 🙂
@BR: While I “get” the essence your Streep vs Blanchett comparision, I still find Blanchett to be superior (might be a personal bias) because even her aloof coldness seems “natural” while Streep looks like she’s putting one over. Ex: Blanchett as Kate Hepburn in “The Aviator”- she totally overshadowed Leo even in that small little appearance.
@apex: We need to find stuff to disagree on 😛 Because I once again agree with you on JLaw. Absolutely overrated. The only movies I liked her in were the X-Men ones. Silver Linings Playbook is flat out boring.
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Mehar
February 3, 2016
Just the way you put the words together, the window into your perspective of the movies, shows your great love for this complex artform. Keep writing ….
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MANK
February 3, 2016
Brangan, your comments have left me confused . . when you said about her getting short shift for her comedy roles over heavy weathered dramatic ones, i thought French lieutenant’s women and Bridges of madison county would top your hate list. but you like her in those movies. it seems that you love meryl in most of her films or rather you love Meryl more than you know. so why this sweping generalisation as meryl – the heavy weather actress, or Meryl- the cold calculative technician and so on in almost every piece you reference her. apart from very recent films like iron lady and AOC- which you said were horror shows for you- i wonder what other celebrated streep performance do you find heavy handed or artificial? sophies’s choice,silkwood, out of Africa……
P.S. i love that clip from TFLW, that is the first Meryl film i saw and just hopelessly fell in love with her. everything about that film and especially that scene just kills me. she is spinning these elobarate web of lies and ensaring Irons in her web, even while she give subtle hints to the audience that she might be lying. everything about her, the body langauge, the way she moves, looks … you could just put the film on silent mode and still get what she is doing there
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SR
February 3, 2016
@ Siddhartha Srivastava – I am gobsmacked that another BR reader has watched ‘The Duke of Burgundy’ and ‘The Clouds of Sils Maria’. To find another interesting headspace besides BR in his blog is singularly amusing.
@ BR – surprised (possibly disappointed) that you’re commenting on Cate Blanchett’s nomination without seeing ‘Carol’. If you get around to it, notice the details (her barely visible flinch upon seeing Terese’s childhood photo on the wall when she visits her apartment…). Forget the Elizabeth/Blue Jasmine… she brilliantly held her own against Judi Dench in ‘Notes on a Scandal’…. Only she could so deftly make Cinderella’s stepmother non-caricature-like, almost forgivable in her wanting to survive in a cruel world.
Marion Cotillard should get a nomination simply for her ‘out out damn spot’ soliloquy in Hamlet.
And finally, Alicia Vikander deserves recognition – be it Man from UNCLE, Ex-Machina and The Danish Girl, she’s an asset. But probably like a Paul Newman, her beauty hampers peoples’ perception of her talent.
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brangan
February 3, 2016
SR: I have seen Carol.
About films like “Clouds of Sils Maria,” I agree. I wish I had the time to write about these films. I had a column on art cinema long ago, but once that got over, have been writing pretty much about mainstream cinema. Except for the festival stuff, I guess.
MANK: There is nothing confusing. It’s not a blanket statement that one hates all heavy roles by Streep. There are some that are done well, and some that are just a lot of huffing and puffing.
See, after one point, it is NEVER possible for an actor to “disappear” into a role, the way they did when they were unknowns. But still, she makes me buy a character in French Lieutenant’s Woman. In Iron Lady, I only see externalities.
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Deepak
February 3, 2016
Wow, lot of JLaw hate out here. While I agree that she’s probably being hyped a bit more than her actual achievements warrant, she does seem to me to be a very “real” presence, even if she’s under tons of makeup, the actress inside always shines through.
She was hilarious in Silver Linings and it was a hilarious movie – maybe not worthy of a Best Actress Oscar (I was rooting for Jessica Chastain that year) but it’s a movie and a performance you can actually enjoy. That’s not something you should discount I feel
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Siddhartha Srivastava
February 3, 2016
BR – That “It’s Complicated” clip reminded me that my favourite Streep performance in about two decades is actually as Susan Orlean in “Adaptation.” – where she was loose, free and altogether hilarious. She should’ve definitely won the Supporting Actress Oscar that year (Catherine Zeta-Jones beat her to it, though that’s a great “star” performance so can’t complain much).
For the dial tone scene alone, I would’ve given every award to Streep.
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Punee
February 3, 2016
@Deepak: I don’t hate JLaw. I used to really like her- like really really like her. But I think all the media hype has made her a caricatured version of herself. She used to be funny and quirky- now comes across as rude and boorish. She used to be earnest and innocent in her roles- especially the first X-Men movie, where my heart went out to her, but nowadays comes across as almost bored and just going through the paces.
As for Jessica Chastain, fat chance the pacifists in Hollywood would ever let the heroine of a “war” movie win an Oscar. I loved her in that role though, she was amazing.
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Prasad
February 3, 2016
@ Siddharth
Definitely Juliette Binoche should have got nominated Clouds of Sils Maria . It was a very complex role and she brought out the internal struggle of a actress way past her prime very effectively.
There are lot of discussion about J Law. We all know she is a very good actress but the main point of contention is she getting nominated for “Joy”. which was little cliched. Her role in Playbook (Not oscar worthy though) or even American hustle was good.
But surprisingly nobody discusses her role in terrific Debra Granik ‘s “Winters bone” She was very good and you can root for her character from the very scene.
As I mentioned before , this competition in this years oscar movies is not that intense as last year (Birdman, Boyhood, Whiplash and GradBudapest)
Also another movie which I find very underrated (very less discussed in blogs) a lot in Whiplash. IMO this is one original and dazzling piece of work from Damien. This movie works at lot of levels . First this is altogether a different genre and it works as a psychological thriller. The last 15 mins is pure brilliance. And this movie was in the bloacklist of hollywood for couple of years. Can’t wait to see his next.:)
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ramitbajaj01
February 3, 2016
Shalini mam, your writing reminds me of Shalini Langer from IE – the same style of writing, the same grace, the same love of the son, the same scholarly about cinema (matching BR sir).
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SR
February 4, 2016
@BR – I’m so sorry; I somehow misunderstood that you hadn’t seen ‘Carol’; my bad!
It would be wonderful if you resumed ‘art cinema’ reviews – I’d be very interested in your opinions of movies like ‘Even the rains – All about my mother – The Flower of Evil – The Dancer Upstairs….’; even your reviews of Miyazaki animations would be welcomed. Your work is a source of perennial delight – thank you.
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Deepak
February 4, 2016
@punee – so it’s not just Mastani, eh? 😉 I think JLaw has always been a bit outspoken – she just says whatever comes to her mind – no filter. That’s just the Kentucky small town upbringing in her – people down south usually are that way. Initially most people found this refreshing but maybe now they’re getting tired of it.
I personally don’t mind – I still find it hilarious.
And yes on Chastain – she’s been doing great, consistent work for a few years now – it’s high time she gets due recognition (beyond getting consistent work, that is).
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Punee
February 4, 2016
@Deepak: “not just Mastani”? huh? Sorry, I think I am missing something here 🙂
Re: JLaw, her shtick was cute but now she is being rude and mean just because she can like she was with that foreign journalist who was checking his phone. It was quite terrible manners. It was very Sonam Kapoor-ish if you know what I mean 🙂 😉
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3393853/Jennifer-Lawrence-slammed-rude-outburst-foreign-reporter-used-phone-record-Golden-Globes-interview.html
Love Chastain ❤ She is to me equal to Claire Danes maybe because I started watching Homeland after watching Zero Dark Thirty. And she was FABULOUS in Interstellar which is my favorite Nolan movie.
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Deepak
February 4, 2016
@Punee – err, I just meant it’s not just Mastani that you love, but that you even like liked JLaw.
I didn’t know about this incident – but yes, this seems a tad rude. She went full Gervais here and you should never go full Gervais. 😉
But then again, isn’t this a constant danger for people who always speak their mind – you’ll finally say something over the line. Hopefully she learns to rein it in going forward.
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Punee
February 4, 2016
@Deepak: Haha! There are lots of people I like loooovee 🙂 But then when I dislike, its not pretty either. I am extremist- nothing is done by small measures- which is something that equally puts people off and endears me to them.
And re: JLaw, no, its her sense of newfound power that has made her come out with such rudeness against a practically defenseless, innocent stranger who probably was a guest to her country. Speaking out your mind =/= rude. Nope.
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NeDhaPa
February 4, 2016
“JLaw, her shtick was cute but now she is being rude and mean just because she can like she was with that foreign journalist who was checking his phone. It was quite terrible manners. It was very Sonam Kapoor-ish if you know what I mean”
Jesus… no… no… no Punee… no. Kaha JL aur kaha SK.
Re-see the video. She has complete control over her anger. No where I found her rude and mean. Very mature. We all have BAD days. I would have completely lost it and shouted and shown the guy middle finger myself. But she/JL, did it with so much class and control (that is a lot for 25 yr old).
And celebs are permanently irritated over papa(razzi). See how JayaB reacts to them most of the time, rolling her eyes and almost ready to take her tongue out at them (sorry, BR, I don’t think anyone-anyone would do that to you though, you are too nice and un-papa types). Whatever J.L is saying to the journo, sounds more like advise (you need to live your life outside of the phone). TO tell you the truth, I am personally disgusted with cell phone use and people quite literally hide behind it. My personal pet peeve as well…. JLaw, I feel your pain.
The way JL handled, the whole thing, it is marvellous.
Then the ‘stupid” journo, in the very next sentence, said OSCARS, while at GOLDEN GLOBES, almost as to prove her point “that you need to live outside of cellphone”.
The media can be mean and vicious. If you “attack” anyone of them, they will all gang up on you and villify you (this is what bigb says, not me). Look at Anne Hathaway’s career. Media machines single handedly (almost) ruined her career (even though the lady is talented and imo innocent).
Lastly they (the actors) should be judged coldly/impersonally, only on their performances. Lot of the times or most of the times, this ain’t so. Our personal likes (dislikes) come in the way of judging the ‘performance’ of the actor!!
e.g. what if someone were to say, well punee is not a good copy-writer (or whatever your profession is) because in personal life she is x-y-z (rude or impolite or mean). It ain’t fair.
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Rahul
February 4, 2016
I have only seen Brooklyn, and though the film and Saoirse Ronan are winsome, I get the feeling that Ronan is aiming for star vehicle type movies, Hanna was also the same. What I mean is that other characters exist just as footnotes in Ronan’s story , and from a viewers perspective, I prefer movies with an ensemble cast, or at least two leads with somewhat equal opportunity.
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Punee
February 4, 2016
@NeDhaPa: A lot of foreign language writers/journalists who need to ask questions in English use Google Translate on their phone. Plus these days most journalists don’t use pen and paper, their questions are written on the phone. JLaw I am sure knows this just like anybody else who has interacted with a journalist or a writer- but she chose to be a bitch about it. As for the Oscars question, people do ask questions about the upcoming awards- what is the big deal- she was being a boor(the reason for my comparision with Sonam), a simple “next question” would have sufficed.
What instruments or devices others use is none of your, mine or her business. To presume that he needs her to TELL him that there is a life outside of phones is the heights of presumptuousness!
And yes, people do hire you based on your personality- that is a cold, hard fact, no matter how talented you are, otherwise Kangana wouldn’t be languishing where she is right now. As for me, (I hate to make this personal but you started it), I have not given a single interview in the past 4 years because all my job offers have been through Reputation alone.
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apex
February 5, 2016
@ Punee: “Love Chastain ❤ ”
Yup, another shared fetish. Lol
Imo Jessica Chastain was esp ethereal in the ‘tree of life’…
She is highly instinctive and her performances don’t come with a heavy baggage of ‘acting credentials’… She just integrates into the milieu in a seamless way…
I really like mallicks works. In ‘tree of life’ however she elicited some ‘complex’ emotions in me…
Summarily She was fragile & ‘pure’
But eventually, felt like becoming that child & let chastain ‘mother’ me 🙂
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Punee
February 5, 2016
@apex: I hadn’t thought much about “Tree of Life” but now I may watch it. What a lovely description you have written…
Re: shared loves (fetish mat kaho na… 🙂 ), all that remains is for you to say you love Madhuri Dixit and Sanjeev Kumar- they are my two especiiaaaalll favorites 🙂
Mads- words fail me…..
Sanjeev Kumar being dreamy and awesome 🙂
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apex
February 6, 2016
Yeah Punee: I like both… Actually doubt there is ANYONE who does NOT like madhuri? Btw didn’t mean THAT by ‘fetish’ here, jus part of my involuntary urban lingo lol
Perhaps, try out ‘tree of life’ when u r in a mood for something metaphorical abstract and artsy. Needs patience but grows on u…
Some scenes for eg wherein Jessica mourns for her (dead) son are moving & heartfelt. One of Brad Pitts better performances but it’s Hunter Mcracken who’s the scene stealer here.
But essentially it’s a directors film. It’s the world of a film maker that I like..(who is allegedly ‘pretentious’ tho I don’t agree..) Terence Mallick …
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NeDhaPa
February 6, 2016
“I have not given a single interview in the past 4 years because all my job offers have been through Reputation alone.”
We call that networking here and it is a ‘normal’ thing. People go to ‘interviews’ even if the job is theirs, as a ‘procedural’ thing. Anyhow, for where you are (Banglore) that means you must have a gr8 reputation, so congrats. Kangana, IMO, is not languishing. She has made it on basis on merit (and easy sleeping habits helped initially maybe), constantly honing her art/skillsets, taking continuing education in film making. I kinda admire that woman. IF any languishing is happening, then it is people like Hrithik not marrying her because she is not of same caste/class/bollywood royalty. I guess HR deserves SB. They both can cry on each other’s shoulders.
And I am bigger fan of Sanjeev Kumar and MD. You are behind me in that as well as admiring my Clint too. You can cry on apex/ranveer’s shoulders.
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Punee
February 6, 2016
@NeDhaPa: Actually Kangana is losing out on a lot of films for eg: Anand Rai has said categorically that he doesn’t want to work with her again because she has “changed” (that’s the euphimism he used!). I don’t care for her personal life at all- its none of my business. She has also become a pain in the neck for Vishal Bharadwaj (with who she is shooting for Rangoon), my AD friend tells me that she is demanding that he give her co-writer credit for doing what every movie star does- ad libbing.
These things go around. This kind of reputation is hard to lose.
As for being fans, I really don’t know why you see it as a competition! Chillax 🙂 Its not like we are starting competing assosiasans or clubs in their name, is it? Correct me if I am wrong 🙂 I would be glad to know there are more people who admire my favorites- it means more seats in the theatre, which means more people ready to invest in them! The first time you said it about CE I thought you were joking, but now you seem to be sorta obsessive 🙂 Chal, Sanjeev Kumar bhi tera aur CE bhi. Hope they come and visit you in person to congratulate you on your “win” 😛
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Punee
February 6, 2016
@apex: Oh dear! You haven’t met people who hate Madhuri? haha! I have. There are these crazy Sridevi fans who go batshit crazy in denouncing Madhuri 🙂 And they don’t believe me when I say I am a fan of both. Same with SRK and SK fans! 😀
I am intrigued by Tree of Life. Will catch it soon for sure! Thanks!
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Punee
February 6, 2016
FYI, I have loved Madhuri since I was 2 when Tezaab hit the screens. So thats about 95% of my life 🙂 Not that its a competition, but its quite absurd that you think you are “ahead” of me. What even does that mean!
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apex
February 6, 2016
“She has made it on basis on merit (and easy sleeping habits helped initially maybe),”
Hmmm…
“Chal, Sanjeev Kumar bhi tera aur CE bhi. Hope they come and visit you in person to congratulate you on your “win” :P” haha
Tthe tree of life needs a certain mood to enjoy the atmospherics…
Anyhow gals cool it, Punee & nedhapa – We can all agree that Kangana is SUPREMELY talented ..
Here (tho her styling leaves a lot to be desired) with one of my fave current indian actors.. Heard they came out recently (or somethin?)
I think this is filmed at the same location as Tom cruises ‘oblivion’– Iceland
Yeh aisi hawaa, aisi lehar
Jisme saare beh jaate hain yahaan
🙂
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Punee
February 10, 2016
@apex: I think thats Namibia, its a popular location, I’ve seen it in Tamil movies too..like this one from Ayan:
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KayKay
February 10, 2016
Am on the MANK express for this one: Far too much strop on Streep here. Not to mention carping on Cate.
They’re both consummate actresses in my book who never fail to turn in impeccable performances. I totally agree with B when he says that beyond a certain level of fame and body of work amassed, it is near impossible for an actor to totally “disappear” into their roles.
With Streep/Blanchett, you’re never NOT aware that it’s an American/Australian actress adopting a foreign accent or mannerism, but beyond my brain registering that for say a few minutes, they totally sell me on whatever roles they’re playing. I just saw Ricki and The Flash, and right from the get go, I wasn’t seeing Meryl anymore but a washed up rocker with a heavy burden of guilt and regret on her.
And finally, I’m a little amused that August:Osage County gets a lot of hate here. It’s a Southern Melodrama, and it’s script practically mandates that performances be dialled up to an 11. I don’t find it that different from our frothy melodramas of the ’70s and ’80s, although you’re less likely to hear Sri Priya swear and wrestle MN Rajam to the floor.
It’s like saying, “I totally love Shivaji’s performance in Mudhal Mariyaathai and Thevar Magan. Why couldn’t he have been this restrained or nuanced in most of his other roles?”
Well, would the script for “Vasantha Maaligai”, “Thanga Pathakkam”, “Rajapat Rangadurai”, “Justice Gopinath”, “Pilot Premnath”, “Pava Mannippu”, “Aalayamani” etc etc allow for such restraint?
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apex
February 11, 2016
@ Punee: checked: HR & Kangana are makin out in that song in Jordan and that “lake” is the Dead Sea…lol
Oblivion was certainly filmed in Iceland mostly, bits Hawaii…
Some kool landscapes there
Btw the kid in me liked that ‘gun’, the bubbleship, the CONCEPT ART & the feeling of being in OBLIVION 😉
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Aravinda Dahanayake
October 30, 2016
I hope MADURI JI can be the next merryl streep in Bollywood
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