BEING KAMAL HASSAN
After the release of Dasavatharam, its multitasking hero faces a brutally candid volley of questions. Unfortunately, there are no answers.
JULY 2008 – AFTER DAYS OF TRYING TO INTERVIEW KAMAL HASSAN – hoping, praying, doing everything but stand on one leg and propitiate the heavens as anthills grew around my feet – I threw my hands up and settled for the next best thing: a fantasy interview, inside my head, the kind where I get to ask any question I want, without worrying whether my forthrightness would result in his moustached minions throwing me into the metaphorical dungeons of no-more-interviews-land. And so we are at his beach house. Kamal is a great host, asking me to choose from a dizzying array of single malts, accompanied by my favourite Cohibas. As the aroma of fine tobacco commingles with the salt from the sea breeze, Kamal tells me I can ask him anything. Anything. After all the talking he had done in the last few weeks, promoting his new film, today he was going to simply listen. All the talking would be mine alone. A few million questions are bubbling in my head after my viewing of Dasavatharam, and the first one to pop out is this. “An actor’s instrument is his face. What interests you – nay, obsesses you – about changing it, disfiguring it, burying it under layers of prosthetic makeup, so that it appears that the part is being performed by a shiny plasticine mask with arms and legs?”
“I know you’re somewhere in there, buried under all that latex, and that you cannot see yourself in relation to your co-actors (most of whom are played by you, anyway) – but do you always have to surround yourself with the kind of crew where no one wishes to point out these deficiencies to you? You didn’t look real in Dasavatharam, and as a result, do you know what I missed the most in all your ten roles? It was the actor who, regardless of the quality of the film around him, never fails to connect emotionally to his audience. I sensed that connection in the weary cop you played in Vettaiyaadu Vilaiyaadu (one of your few concessions at being directed by a new-generation Kollywood filmmaker with a mind of his own), in the emotional fool you played in Mumbai XPress (an existential comedy if there ever was one; how sad that it was sold as an all-out laughathon), in the hotheaded villager you played in Virumaandi (that mostly masterful examination of truth). I admit I laughed along with Balram Naidu, the Telugu-accented cop who’s easily the highlight of Dasavatharam, but I couldn’t bring myself to invest in Govind at all – and he’s the protagonist, the one apparently carrying the fate of mankind (in the form of a bio-weapon) in his hand. Whether he succeeded or failed in saving the world, it was all one big shrug to me. Don’t you think Govind would have come off better with more screen time smuggled from the other characters you play, most of whom, in any case, refuse to register because of their lack of screen time?”
“So it’s true, then, what they say about your self-indulgence, that playing the ten roles became more important than ensuring that each of these roles reached the audience? Ah, but this audience will be distracted by the multi-crore special effects, you say? But these effects are completely underwhelming for someone used to watching the latest from Hollywood – and by now, I think most of us fall into this category – and yet the entire film is really one giant special effect, completely reliant on trickery and technology, so do you want your audiences to walk in after bolstering themselves with the caveat, ‘Remember this is a Tamil film. There’s only so much that can be done with the limited technology we have, with the limited money we have. Just think how hard this hero born amidst us has toiled, how hard he’s trying to take us places we’ve never been before.’ But isn’t that line of thinking a great disservice to you, a writer-actor who refuses to be limited by the narrow confines of Tamil cinema and measures himself against global standards?”
“Because isn’t that what you were aspiring for when you wrote and directed and acted in Hey Ram? Hasn’t that film, more than any other, set the template for the roles you now write for yourself, which have become increasingly baroque to the point where they’re practically a desi version of a Charlie Kaufman conceit? With all the layers and allusions and symbols and byzantine excursions into your thought processes, these serious roles in your serious films – as opposed to the comic roles in your gun-for-hire comedies – could each be titled Being Kamal Hassan, with the audience being required to take a deep breath and plunge into your subconscious. And in a recent press conference in Hyderabad, you revealed that your next film, Marmayogi, is set in the 6th century. Do you feel you’ve outgrown the simpler emotional effects of a Mahanadhi (incidentally, an astounding performance), where you did nothing more – and, more importantly, nothing less – than shine a powerful light into the dark recesses of the human condition in the present day?”
“Walking out of Dasavatharam – which didn’t do it for me at all, I’m sorry – I was puzzled about the kind of audience you’re targeting. Hey Ram, for instance, was clearly aimed at the (how I hate this word!) “classes,” but here, you base an entire film on chaos theory – in other words, if a butterfly flaps its wings in the 12th century, would its modern-day reincarnation take the form of a look-at-me, fake-CGI creation? – and yet, you have a Vaishnavite priest breaking into dishoom-dishoom in the sanctum sanctorum of a temple. There are a great number of high-flown references to religion – each one of your Indian avatars is named along the lines of Vishnu’s avatars, and even the Caucasian villain you play reflects his religion in being called Christian Fletcher (a nod to your idol Marlon Brando in Mutiny on the Bounty, no doubt, where he played Fletcher Christian?) – and yet, you end the film with a cheap shot, with George Bush executing a folksy jig amidst cheering (jeering?) masses in Chennai as the director of your film, KS Ravikumar, breaks into an embarrassingly overdone ode to his star, who’s extolled as the Hero of the World. Don’t you feel you’re alienating one section of your audience with the pandering and the other with the pondering?”
“You’re usually fairly upfront whether you want your audience to put their silly hats on, or their thinking caps – and that’s helped us understand beforehand that this is what we should expect from your films. We walked into Tenali and Panchatantiram and Pammal K Sambandham with the promise of nothing more than two-and-a-half hours of mirth, and though the consistency of the comedy may have varied from film to film, the films were at least consistent with our expectations. And similarly, Anbe Sivam and Aalavandhan and Hey Ram promised to challenge us, and that these films certainly did, to varying degrees. But with Dasavatharam, for the first time ever in your screenwriting career, I sensed some confusion. For didn’t the title and the pre-release promotion (that concentrated almost exclusively on the circus elements of the film, namely, “Come one, come all, for the first time ever, see one man take ten forms”) make the film out to be a gimmick, a light-hearted lark despite the hard work you’ve evidently put in?”
“But what unfolded was a cleverly constructed (and at the same time, contrived and sloppily executed) serious film pretending to be a light film and ending up in an outlandish limbo. Here you are, riffing on the Terminator template – to borrow the example of a “chase movie” that practically defines the genre – with the good guy on the run, being tailed by an unstoppable killer. I should be biting my nails, right? I should be at the edge of my seat, right? My palms should be moist with sweat, right? And instead, I’m suppressing a yawn as your film periodically sputters to a stop to launch into your by-now-patented excursions into theology and multiculturalism (you play a Dalit, a Sikh, a Hindu, a Muslim, a Christian, a Zen master from Japan… what, no Aborigine?) and the defining events at Pearl Harbor and Hiroshima. Do you expect us to be so dazzled by your dedication to your craft – for all those surely unending hours in the makeup room, we kneel before you, sire – that you think we’ll gladly gloss over what’s really important in a film, that it affects us, impacts us, and if we’re really lucky, moves us?”
“Or, dear sir, are you laughing at my observations because I’m so completely missing the point that you’ve pulled off what is possibly the slyest joke in Tamil cinema history – that the ten avatars were merely the box-office guarantee to pull in the crowds, the same crowds that refused to show up for your two avatars in Aalavandhan, and that once you got them into the theatres, you weren’t giving them what they wanted to see so much as what you wanted them to see? Are you saying that had the same chaos-theory yarn been spun around just one Kamal Hassan, you’d have had people like me show up and be exhilarated and subsequently frustrated about its commercial fate, whereas, with this gimmicky ten-for-the-price-of-one conceit, you’ve finally gotten the all-important masses to watch your class movie?”
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Anonymous
July 14, 2008
Isn’t it Kamal(a) HAAsan? why do people keep writing HaSSan? 🙂 (yet to read the post..just saw the title and wanted the spelling cleared/corrected)
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APALA
July 14, 2008
Great piece. Like I said in our earlier discussion, DASA still worked for me (of course not like a Hey! Ram, Anbe Sivam, Virumandi, Mahanadhi …… – but in a diffrent way!) even though at times the CGI looked tacky and the make-up looked plastic in few instances.
But what I really wished was that Kamal-sir should have given time for your interview! It would have been excellent, different and thought-provoking! I just really WISH he gives you time at least after reading this piece!
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raj
July 14, 2008
BR, very well written.
What can I say? I believe you have nailed his thought processes clearly.
That last paragraph – that’s what I had articulated somewhat unsuccesfully in one of my comments – yes, thats what I believe it is. It is sort of his Neengal Kettavai with a very wicked smile and nod at Balu Mahendra, not the least because he has pulled it off. And what can I say? He HAS pulled it off, hasnt he? It is, IS, a Box-Office success. Now, I wish he didnt have to do the gimmicks and focussed on embellishing the high concept. For, all that money that went into the masks and special effects, not to mention the limitations that the makeup impsoes on shooting schedules, could have been better spent on tightening the script and satisfying Baradwaj Rangan, and fifteen others who probably would be engaged(and lets make it clear, for all that I comment loftily, I dont get high-concepts easily) 🙂
But then, this is Chennai. And a Kamalhassan can possible sell a 60-cr high-concept, gimmicky project more easily than a 30-Cr high-concept, fidel-to-ideals project.
I believe he had to make a choice – and from a long-term perspective, I believe he made the right one. The short term choice of being fidel to this movie’s script might have finished his career coming, as it does, on the back of Mum Eex and Aalavandhan.
If you come to think of it, Apoorva Sagodharargal itself was a gimmick. At that stage of his career, the size of the gimmick wasnt large enough to destroy the script. But at this stage, the gimmick had to be huge and it was a tsunami-sized one – if I am allowed to be corny, I’d say this tsunami was bad in the short term, and good for the long-term, to borrow an impiled-but-kind-of-not-implied analogy from the movie itself.
Now, having said all this, I wonder if he could have played Napoleon’s role instead of George Bush. Now, how does that help?
1) It is a meatier role
2) It eliminates the need for special makeup and the associated costs and scheduling limitations
3) There are not many combo shots required with Nambi for this character so not much special effects costs itself
4) It bloody adds up to 10 without distracting the flow of the script.
Maybe, he could have played one of the Sand mafia also instead of , uh, the patti or even, blasphemy, Govind.How would it have been, if, like his idol, who allowed Savithri to play the connecting dot between his 9 characters, Kamal allowed someone like Vikram or say Madhavan to play that rather ordinary scientist role? (Further savings in makeup because Maddy doesnt need to be made up to look young!And his acting skills are enough for that role). This is where your point about the yes-men surrounding him
resonates. I am not half-intelligent as a consumer of cinema and if even I can think of these, why doesnt anybody around him give him these suggestions…
Tell me, the mask aside, what did you think of Christian Fletcher – the body language, the gestures, the terminator effect, the kamal-version-of-hollywood-english (which I thought was an improvement from MMKR etc)?
Was it good as my limted exposure to hollywood seems to tell me or was it only corny and cheesy?
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raj
July 14, 2008
“Don’t you feel you’re alienating one section of your audience with the pandering and the other with the pondering”
I dont think so. The part that wanted pandering seems to have been satisfied.
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Ramesh
July 14, 2008
And thus you have extinguished my Monday night blues with this wonderful piece. I get a feeling that you are endearing to the readers mainly because you are one among “us” rather than being one among “them”. If you knew people within the industry intimately do you really feel you could write with such freedom?
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Ramesh
July 14, 2008
Total no. of “you”‘s in my comment = 6 🙂 . I am really pointing at “you”
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Deepauk M
July 14, 2008
I take a weekend off to move and you’ve tucked Kieslowski (I’ve been looking for Camera buff and the color troika at blockbuster stores with no luck at all), a Koirala movie and a Kamal article under the blogbelt.
“Kamal is a great host, asking me to choose from a dizzying array of single malts, accompanied by my favourite Cohibas” – Did you imaginary interview Kamal or Castro? I’m imagining him replying “I eat breakfast 300 yards from 4000 Alwarpet-vasi’s who spent 120 bucks to watch Dasavatharam, so don’t think for one second that you can come down here, flash a journalist badge, and make me nervous.” 🙂
You Kant sell existential comedies in Chennai( not yet at least )- not unless you want empty cinema halls. MX would have suffered a worse fate (if possible) if it hadnt been marketed as a laugh-out loud comedy caper. I have to mention Raja again here – the musical score for that movie gets scant respect in popular media but Joel and Ethan Coen could’ve used some of the prelude and interludes of “Korangu Kaiyil Mala” in their version of “The Ladykillers”. Its just that good.
If Kamal had mentioned in the pre-release interviews that Dasa was just an effort to recapture Navarathri like he did in some of the post release ones, I guess I would’ve lowered my expectations. If Mahandhi is universal in terms of space (the gullible man who falls victim to circumstance and understands how the system doesnt necessarily serve protect his likes will resonate with anyone anywhere in the world) Marmayogi might just be Kamal traversing on the time axis. I think he believes (and rightly so in my opinion) that it is important to explore the origins of the pseudomorality we term “Indhiak kalaacharam”. Or it could just be that his story requires the societal nascence offered by the 6th century. Or it could about the prosecution of the Jains – which would lead to more religious groups complaining. Either way I would still give it a chance coz very few people who generate the sort of buzz he does are willing to even take a stab at things like that.
P.S: I strongly object to Charlie Kaufman being collateral damage in this article 🙂 .
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Vijay
July 14, 2008
I dont buy this Kamal is taking revenge for Hey Ram with movies like Dasavatharam theory. Neengal Kettavai following Moonram Pirai is different.
But lets not forget that in the past Kamal was able to successfully engage all sections of the audience and still score a box office hit
I think after Devar Magan and Virumandi (to a certain extent) Kamal has’nt quite figured out a way to engage everybody. (I would have added Mahanadhi too but Iam not sure of its box office success, I keep reading conflicting reports and so I left it out)With those movies, I dont know if it was the rural setting or what, but they managed to engage the connoiseur, and at the same time the presentation was accessible enough for the average fan. No tacky graphics in the name of symbolism like in Hey Ram or fancy cartoons like in Aalavandhaan. Just solid story telling.
Over the years with all the hype and publicity and internet explosion and changes in the conomics of movie-making, something has changed. The budgets have increased,mandatory intro songs like in a Vijay/Ajith movie are needed even in a supposedly realistic Hollywood-like film like Vettaiyaadu Vilayaadhu, heroines of these films look even younger than they did 15 years back in Kamal’s films, some gimmick or the other is deemed necessary and suddenly with a “world” market Kamaljust cannot figure out how to engage everyone anymore.
Unless he figures a way out, you would keep hearing complaints alternatively from either sections of the audience.
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karthik
July 14, 2008
Rangan…Thanks and as usual impeccable. Ditto for the sentiment, it was immaculately captured. I hae my own theory for the indlugence that was Dasa – post Sivaji the market for tamil cinema especially overseas has skyrocketed and Kamal felt he could capitalize on that jus like his super Peer – Rajini and hence Dasav. It was not a cinematic product but a business product despatched to the masses jus like Sivaji with the hype and hoopla hovering. This was however accomplished at the expense of Kamal Cinema – that u alluded to earlier. Maybe he’s getting ready to resurrect Marudhanayagam with the profits…..
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karthik
July 14, 2008
“Maybe he’s getting ready to resurrect Marudhanayagam with the profits…..”
Marudhanaayagam itself looks like another big-budget venture along the lines of Braveheart, made to prove that Kamal can meet Hollywood standards. The trailer left me unimpressed.
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Tambi Dude
July 15, 2008
“I have to mention Raja again here – the musical score for that movie gets scant respect in popular media but Joel and Ethan Coen could’ve used some of the prelude and interludes of “Korangu Kaiyil Mala” in their version of “The Ladykillers”. Its just that good.”
Righto? At last someone else felt the quality of the music of this song. IMO a path breaking jazz effort by Raja and much better than the recently released film of a MD whose name I will not mention.
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arun
July 15, 2008
I think the biggest failure of the movie was the makeup.. imagine if the makeup was much more real and convincing. And the second biggest problem was background score.. the reasons why all great movies from Kamal was because of Raja’s background score that really brought the screen to life… thats the reason why flectcher chasing Kamal is a good time to go get popcorn..! otherwise, I think Kamal has succeeded in
two things at once.. for once he has a movie for the masses and for the intellectual crowd..
But I do agree that I would like to see more of Kamal in lot more movies where he can bring characters to life.. I think there is a big void which only actors like him can fulfill.. he should really stop pushing limits of technology and instead bring good movies to the screens. More types of potato dishes to the feast.
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Shankar
July 15, 2008
“Kamal surrounding himself with yes-men.” I somehow think it’s quite the opposite. I don’t think he listens to people too much. Even with all the constraints of budgets and such, he does his own thing. I basically think he is a dreamer…led by his firm (and often unshakeable) thoughts and beliefs. I do understand where BR is coming from, with regard to Dasa, though.
Even in the 80s, Kamal went and produced “Vikram”, which for its times was a little ahead. I still remember how the release was getting delayed because Kamal was insistent that the titles (and the climax graphics) turn out good. Many might not know, but the work that went into the titles showed up in the movie “Viduthalai” (even though Rajni and Kamal were competitors/peers then – perhaps Balaji had something to do with it). Finally, there just wasn’t enough time for the titles and so Kamal approached Raja for a hip song. This discussion happened in the morning and the song was ready after lunch, with Kamal himself crooning it. Apologies for digressing off onto a story back from those days. However, my point was that Kamal has always dreamt big and has always wanted everything big. I guess for a guy who has achieved so much, a little conceit is pardonable!! 🙂
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Ravi K
July 15, 2008
I figured the Rangaraja Nambi scenes were going to be fairly realistic, but the minute I saw Kamal rise up and send the bad guys flying like he was Vijay (not to mention singlehandedly pushing the Vishnu deity back into place) those hopes were dashed. Even Kulothunga Chozhan is portrayed as a teeth-knashing, mustache-twirling villain.
Only Balram Naidu was entertaining in and of himself. The other characters felt like perfunctory entries in a checklist. Did Crazy Mohan write this character and then leave?
When complicated make-up is involved, do it right or don’t do it at all. The film ended up seeming like a low-rent Eddie Murphy film, but at least his films (however bad they are) have good make-up. The make-up in this film (except for Balram Naidu) consisted of weird rubber masks. Navarathiri may have had too many Sivaji speeches, but at least he played all those characters without pounds of make-up glued to his face.
As for Aboorva Sagotharargal being gimmicky. There’s nothing inherently wrong with actors playing multiple roles. But that kind of thing must be anchored by an entertaining story and good direction. AS was thoroughly entertaining, and Singeetham Srinivasa Rao is a much better director than KS Ravikumar, whose selection for this film is a mystery to me. Maybe Kamal wanted a director that wouldn’t be too assertive? Ulaganayagan indeed.
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Vishal
July 15, 2008
Spot on! Spot on!
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Anon.
July 15, 2008
Five years since your Where Does a Hero Go from Here, and STILL no answers?…We must be dealing with one heck of a massive Mountain that simply refuses to budge! 🙂
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brangan
July 15, 2008
Anonymous: I used to think so too, till someone showed me a letterhead…
APALA: “at times the CGI looked tacky and the make-up looked plastic in few instances”
“at times”? “in few instances?” 🙂 And thanks.
raj: “It is sort of his Neengal Kettavai with a very wicked smile and nod at Balu Mahendra”
Ah, so you’ve begun to make interpretations too. I’m surprised I’m still typing, considering how I’m rubbing my hands with glee 🙂
“For, all that money that went into the masks and special effects”
Not nearly enough, I feel. Or they chose the wrong technicians. See how awesome Love Story 2050 looks – and I don’t think that cost 60 crores.
“If you come to think of it, Apoorva Sagodharargal itself was a gimmick.”
Yeah, but a very well executed one. I don’t think we have a problem with gimmicks as such. But you can’t keep justifying your response to a film BECAUSE of them.
“what did you think of Christian Fletcher” – he didn’t do anything for me. That sideward click of the neck before an action sequence is a Kamal-ism as old as the hills. But I admit that the makeup was so overwhelmingly distracting that I didn’t really care for the character.
Ramesh: Thanks man. But it’s also the nature of what I write — mainly reviews and articles like this one. If my bread and butter came from interviewing stars, I too may have had my nose up Kollywood’s butt 🙂
Deepauk M: “Did you imaginary interview Kamal or Castro?” Oh, thanks for this one. I haven’t stopped laughing. But this interview was “imagined” at his Neelangarai beach house 🙂
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brangan
July 15, 2008
Vijay: “I dont buy this Kamal is taking revenge for Hey Ram with movies like Dasavatharam theory.”
I too don’t buy this. He is too intelligent and ambitious for that, and I think this is just a film that slipped out of his hands and went wholly awry (as opposed to going only partly awry like Aalavandhan)
karthik: Thanks. And that’s another interesting theory there, with “post Sivaji the market for tamil cinema especially overseas has skyrocketed and Kamal felt he could capitalize on that jus like his super Peer – Rajini and hence Dasav.”
Tambi Dude: “recently released film of a MD whose name I will not mention.” Oh please. Don’t tease, dude. Out with it 🙂
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brangan
July 15, 2008
arun: “I think there is a big void which only actors like him can fulfill.” Yeah, but will he take up such characters again? He wasn’t exactly a “hero” in Mahanadhi or Guna — just a character. Will he go back to not being Ulaganayakan again?
Shankar: “This discussion happened in the morning and the song was ready after lunch:” And what a song, man, what a song. Raja in the mid-eighties was something else, wasn’t he? 🙂
Ravi K: “the minute I saw Kamal rise up and send the bad guys flying like he was Vijay”
Seriously man. I think that set the tone for the disappointment to follow.
“KS Ravikumar, whose selection for this film is a mystery to me”
I heard from “sources” that KSR’s selection was a business decision because the director is a distributor’s darling. I heard that no one would have touched the film had Kamal made it either himself or with one from his usual gang. Of course, I can’t say how true this is, otherwise he wouldn’t be directing Marmayogi himself…
Vishal: So I take that as a whole-hearted endorsement? 🙂
Anon.: Yup…
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Ranjit
July 15, 2008
“And instead, I’m suppressing a yawn as your film periodically sputters to a stop to launch into your by-now-patented excursions into theology and multiculturalism? …do you think we’ll gladly gloss over what’s really important in a film, that it affects us, impacts us, and if we’re really lucky, moves us?”
That’s exactly it. The Kamal of today somehow feels that he has to live up to the tag of the ‘universal hero’ by hogging screen time, having at least 4 fights, a song etc, while not completely being able to surrender to pure ‘masala’ either. The resulting kitsch is what we have in Aalavanthan and Virumandi to a lesser extent, and in Dasa in a far more frightening ‘avatar’.
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Ranjit
July 15, 2008
What’s truly depressing is, Kamal seems to be proud of what he has achieved. He has give a lot of Mallu interviews to promote the movie in Kerala, and in every single one of them he states his belief in ‘Dasavatharam’ being the next step to bridge the commercial-art divide. I sincerely hope this is for the sake of publicity only!!
I wish Kamal (a) directs movies with other talented heroes in the main roles, and (b) surrenders himself completely to the new crop of directors like Bala, Ameer, why even someone like Vidhu Vinod Chopra (who could do with some help on screenplays!).
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bart
July 15, 2008
Bang on.. But,
“…you revealed that your next film, Marmayogi, is set in the 6th century. Do you feel you’ve outgrown the simpler emotional effects of a Mahanadhi …”
I feel he should outgrow Mahanadhi atleast now considering his age and the very little time left. Especially if Tamil cinema has to touch topics of 6th century and grandeurness, it needs some financial backing which only Kamal kind of saleable artist can bring. (If not, we would have to be make ourselves happy with Uliyin Osai and the likes!) But only wish is that it should not be another fancy dress parade but it should be an serious effort, preferably with him underplaying. On a sidenote, to make serious social movies we have a decent crop of new directors (Cheran, Ameer, Bala, Vasanthabalan, Sasikumar, Radha Mohan, Gautam Menon etc…); but for taking this crop to the next level, Kamal is needed but with restraint 🙂
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Srivatsan
July 15, 2008
Baradwaj,
Nicely written. I think he could have done 3 Mahanadhis mean time. 2 yrs wasted 🙂 May be he needs money for Marudhanayagam?
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Srijith
July 15, 2008
Kamal Hassan : I need to do something big, something historical, a big blockbuster
His Consicence : For it to be a blockbuster, it should be a hit in A,B and C centres..
Kamal Hassan : How about having 10 roles.?
His Conscience : Good idea!
Kamal Hassan : Ravi, a movie with 10 roles, i’ll write the script, you dumb it down.
K.S.Ravikumar : Sure, we’ll make it a success
Kamal Hassan : Idea 1, Idea 2, Idea 3…
K.S.Ravikumar(uses brains) : No. Gimmick 1, Gimmick 2, Gimmick 3.
Kamal’s Conscience : Oh Shit.!
Kamal Hassan : We show the idol and credits roll,
K.S.Ravikumar : No. we show this making of characters song, and I dance..!
Kamal’s Conscience : Oh Shit..!
K.S.Ravikumar : Sir! It’s done, It’s a success.
Kamal Hassan : Thanks to you.
Kamal’s Conscience : At least the money came in, So much for brains and intelligent cinema.
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brangan
July 15, 2008
Ranjit: Oh, I’m sure those interviews are just PR fluff. And somehow, I don’t see Kamal making movies with the younger crop at all.
bart: “Especially if Tamil cinema has to touch topics of 6th century and grandeurness…” Why does Tamil cinema *have* to go to the 6th century? Oh, I’m all for it if such a movie is made (and made well) but isn’t the grandeur of emotions (as in Mahanadhi) its own kind of rich reward? (I used this film because you said he should “outgrow Mahanadhi,” and I feel it’s exactly those kinds of everyman roles he should be doing. Imagine the scope for performances…)
I say this because if you do the 6th century film, then your budget goes up, and to compensate for that, you begin to “commercialise” things and bring in gimmicks, and it’s an endless vicious cycle. Movie like Mahanadhi wouldn’t cost much and you can have that much more control over how they turn out, plus a decent run in the A centres would more than make back the cost.
Whenever I say this, people throw back the argument at me that Anbe Sivam flopped, so how do you expect him to keep making these movies… But AS cost some 12 cr., which is a ridiculous budget for that kind of film. Had the same film been made at a reasonable cost, its returns would have taken it to safety.
Now may especially be the time to think about this because multiplexes are being planned left right and centre.
Srivatsan: Yeah, the “M” movie topic keeps rearing its head very often…
Srijith: LOL. Thanks for the late-evening upper.
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raj
July 15, 2008
“See how awesome Love Story 2050 looks..”
Hmm…a movie like that shouldnt be pardoned for looking good.
I dont know this is where we diverge. How can you pardon such a movie because it looks glossy or whatever?
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arun
July 15, 2008
there may be one explanation for all of this.. kamal fans please forgive me for saying this.. but I think he has split personalities… and they are all pulling him in different directions.. thats the only rationale for an artist who wants everything at once… !
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APALA
July 15, 2008
Dear BRangan:
I do not think budget was the problem for Anbe Sivam! It was the publicity (or the lack of) which let the film down – that’s my opinion. Also our “general audience” did not enjoy engrossing conversations and the “hero” walking away without the girl in the end – I guess! But I can not even think of any movie – even Kamal-sir’s – which has bettered ANBE SIVAM as yet!
All said and done, Kamal-sir has mentioned in one of the pre-release interviews that ” success matters to him a lot” (He even said “naan poRanthu vizhunthathE jaippatharkuththAn”!) and that is why he had only “success” in his mind starting DASA!
Even over the years he had mentioned in many of his interviews that the STAR in him feeds the CREATOR in him. For the CREATOR to be alive he had to keep the STAR alive! How do you keep a star alive without commercial success?!! He did not go back to his STAR for a long time since Hey! Ram – except of course “Vasool Raja”!
So pardon him for this – as it’s a conscious decision to showcase his STAR POWER so that he can work on a Marmayogi and Marudanayagam, because – let’s face it – time is running out for him. So, don’t dumb down him for DASA. He has his valid reasons – just wait and he will show you!
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raj
July 15, 2008
I forgot one positive aspect about Kamal playing Napoleon’s role – it would have spared us the torture of hearing Chozha chakravarthy with a poor diction – as someone commented elsewhere, Napoleon is the kind of guy who would probably say Chola Sheraton instead of Chozha Samrajyam 🙂
And I didnt get the fuss about Balram Naidu – it was the best anyone(not even the Chiranjeevis and Nagarjunas and Mahesh Babus could have done that) could have done but at the end of the day, it was just a caricature. It wasnt an ‘authentic’ telugu-origin guy speaking tamil, trust me. Just because it had some Crazy Mohaneseque dialogue cannot elevate that performance to super levels – I mean perhaps he pandered to the average tamil man’s caricature in mind of what a telugu speaking guy would speak tamil like – not the real one. Maybe many tamil guys including BR felt that was so good. I should say as a person with experience of interaction with a wide variety of telugu people that that is not true. That jig on the ringtone was laughably cheap.
Actually, one should see his version of telugu-speaking tamil guy in the telugu version of dasa to understand what I am saying. There also, he played what an average telugu guy thinks a tamil guy speaking telugu would do, not the real deal.
Just goes to show how many people think they have nailed it all about the movie( I am sure he is laughing at all people who are appreciating Balram Naidu(Bhagvan naidu in telugu) as authentic and superb) without knowing what they are talking about
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Sagarika
July 15, 2008
Shankar: I simply loved what you had to say here about Kamal. It’s these kinds of anecdotes (I’d like to call them “sensible sermons,” as opposed to “senseless snippets”) — that actually throw light on aspects of a star’s personality, IMO (two stars in this case, IR and Kamal…see how their depth, drive and dedication shine right thru?) — that are far more meaningful than snippety gossips (or is it gossipy snippets?) that lead us nowhere. Thanks for sharing. 🙂
And which song was that…the masterpiece that got turned around between breakfast and lunch on the same day (I mean, wow!)? The title song or Vanithamani? I saw Vikram on TV in bits and pieces during a summer vacation in the late 80s (at grandma’s). All I remember is lots of running around in aiplane hangars, open fields, middle-of-nowhere locales (Dimple’s lovely curls blowing wildly in the wind! I think she got the Crowning Glory ad right after that or something)…but I do recall the ending being, well, open ended, as if begging a sequel (that probably never got made).
It’s probably dated as hell now, but I wouldn’t mind seeing Vikram in its entirety at least once. As for Viduthalai (Qurbani remake, right?), I saw it on the big screen when I eleven…it gave me the heebie jeebies for nights on end (dead body floating in fish tank…a bit too much for a 11-year-old, no? Maybe not any more. Oh those innocent days…).
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Anon.
July 15, 2008
brangan: “And somehow, I don’t see Kamal making movies with the younger crop at all.” Clearly! He seems far more intent upon (thru art) “breaking bread with the dead” (12th century? 6th century?…), as W.H. Auden would easily attest to.
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arun
July 15, 2008
Raj: you are missing the point about balram naidu. of course any telugu actor speaking would be more authentic. but this is tamil actor pretending to be a telugu guy speaking tamil.. thats why its funny and no, nobody thinks thats how telugu guys talk tamil.. but you are right about caricature.. buts thats what makes it funny..and not everybody can do it.. van gogh may be a great artist but he cannot do a normal rockwell.
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Deepauk M
July 16, 2008
Raj: Cliche’s exist for a reason. I’ve met telugu-origin people whose accent matches Balaram Naidu in shades. I do agree it is a caricature, but it serves the purpose of a caricature – comedy. Cliche’s are standard issue for comedians, be it stand-ups who do accents or Solomon Poppiah making comments about cooking for his wife. The issue isnt so much people claiming intellectual superiority by deconstructing Dasa as the movie not deserving to be broken down to that level.
That “laughably cheap jig on the ringtone” was also self-referential. It was the first song Kamal choreographed in the Telugu film industry as a dance master.
Brangan: “I used this film because you said he should “outgrow Mahanadhi,” and I feel it’s exactly those kinds of everyman roles he should be doing.” – Are you saying he should restrict himself to those everyman roles or do those in addition to the big budget spectaculars? If its the latter I completely agree. Throw a Mahanadhi in the mix between a Marmayogi and a Maruthanayagam. I just finished reading an excellent article in tamil that stated (rough translation): “Dont write ideas/opinions, write life”. Simple yet true and doubly so in Kamal’s case.
“And what a song, man, what a song. Raja in the mid-eighties was something else, wasn’t he? ” – I’m restraining myself from going off in your commentspace. If I understood Shankar’s comment right, what can I say that isnt in the lyrics “Naan Vettri pettravan, Imayam thottu vittavan” ! If you haven’t already, I hope you eventually get around to writing something on Raja.
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Vijay
July 16, 2008
It will be interesting to know what Kamal thinks of this article. Is there any way to bring this to his attention and get his response? I am sure he doesnt get to read critical yet objective assessments like this on a regular basis, or maybe never at all. None of the Tamil magazines I know carry critiques like this, which is sad by the way.
Maybe he would respond, or maybe he would be indifferent and say “Iam my harshest critic” or whatever. But nevertheless it would be interesting to know his reaction, if only that were possible.
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Deepauk M
July 16, 2008
Here is something else I wanted to touch on: “I sensed that connection in the weary cop you played in Vettaiyaadu Vilaiyaadu (one of your few concessions at being directed by a new-generation Kollywood filmmaker with a mind of his own)” .
I’ve always believed otherwise. If actors are seen as brands/corporations Kamal was a brand known as an early adopter while Rajini is the more conservative brand. “Kalaignan” with A.B.Vijay after he did a somewhat decent thriller in “Naalaya Seidhi”, “Indian” with Shankar, “Chanakyan” with Rajeev Kumar after other Malayalam biggies turned it down and finally VV with Gautham Menon.
Of the new crop Selvaraghavan and Ameer might be the only ones whose aesthetics would agree with Kamal’s to some extent IMO. He is only one film old but I think sometime in the future Vetrimaran might be able to come up with a script that ably harnesses both Kamal’s star power and histrionics. Whatever little I’ve seen and heard of the man has been impressive and I’m sure he can come up with something age appropriate and engrossing for all concerned.
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Venkat
July 16, 2008
Hi Rangan,
Yes, it’s me, a previous regular bitten hard by the rigours of life. It’s been a long time, I’ve been reading your posts but haven’t had the time to reply specifically. But this post, I just couldn’t resist.
In fact, I’ve written a reply at my site because it’s about 1000 words long. I didn’t want to “hijack your blog” – thanks Sagarika 😉
Please view it if you can, I’ve been meaning to write something like this about this topic for a while.
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brangan
July 16, 2008
Venkat: Could you paste your response here as well? I think it would be interesting to see the discussions (if any) that follow… Thanks.
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raj
July 16, 2008
Deepak and Arun, my point didnt come across correctly either- balram naidu WAS funny, grant it. But it wasnt ‘authentic’ as for example, quite a few guys claim – “I have been in Hyderabad for a few years and Kamal has brought in a telugu guy speaking tamil so beautifully”. Now, I have a problem with that – because it is hardly likely that you will run into Balram naidu types in Hyderabad – more likely in Chennai or Gummidipoondi. Minus the exaggerations Kamal did.That is the point. Like you said, the movie doesnt deserve the deconstruction – the one that made me laugh the maximum was “Krishna patti mimes Varaha avatar in that song so she is Varaha avatar” :-). And “Fletcher is Parasurama because he killed people” – yeah, so did Rama, Krishna and others. And Parasurama certainly didnt axe down people randomly – he was into ethnic cleansing.
As for this
“That “laughably cheap jig on the ringtone” was also self-referential. It was the first song Kamal choreographed in the Telugu film industry as a dance master”
That takes it into Main Hoon Na territory. Farah khan pannina brilliant reference-loop, kamal pannina theriya kooda theriyadhu namakku. Hindi padam paarthu valarndha koottam…:-)
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raj
July 16, 2008
Deepak, I see your point on Ameer and Selvaragavan and yet it is more likely that AR Murugadoss gets a project with Kamal if Ghajini becomes a hit in Hindi – I have a feeling Amir Khan has made a bad choice after years but let’s see – they might gloss it out so well with money power that people might ignore its faults.
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raj
July 16, 2008
And BR, I dont understand your problem. You say that Panchathanthiram etc raised minimal expectations in you so you could enjoy. But then I remember you stating in these very columns that you dont expect much from Dasavatharam- I dont think you expected a hey ram or aalavandhan here. So, I dont know where the expectations were set wrongly. The very title card “legend in 10 roles” should have told you what to expect – so while the quality of the movie might be not upto your expectations, you cant blame Kamal for not setting the correct expectations.
OTOH, it may be the face plastic. Now, of all people do you think it is necessary for facial expressions. Even the everyman you talk about, is he going to react to every emotion – change his expression from “emotion A to B to C” in a few seconds, say for example like Saif Ali Khan did much to your awe, in Omkara( I am surprised he didnt win a natl award this time – looks like mallu and bengali jolna pais dominated the jury this time, never mind we’l give it to Akshay Kumar next time for Tashan). Isnt it equally likely that a man at that position just maintains a stone face throughout? Why then the premium on facial expressions? Why not focus on the body language? I am not saying ‘instead of’, mind. If the mask imposed limitations, why not evaluate the performance considering the limitations?
Like Deepak asked, are you saying that Kamal *must* only play the everyman from now on? Make films only for you?
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raj
July 16, 2008
Also, do you believe “not much thought has gone into the writing” of Dasavatharam?
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Venkat
July 16, 2008
Sure, Rangan. It’s posted below:
The reason Kamal chose to make Dasavatharam (and indeed a plethora of multicharacter films) is very interesting. I believe there are 2 or 3 significant reasons.
1) He has no charisma by himself. I love his efforts as much as the next guy, but seriously the guy doesn’t have the on screen presence to carry a movie by himself. Could you imagine him in Sivaji? Even the Shankar movie he did, he had to hide in order to be stylish. The plain fact is not many like Kamal as Kamal.
You seem to be referencing Vettaiyadu where he played a “weary cop”. I don’t think he did this on purpose at all. He wanted the cash so he gave the performance of someone completely disinterested. Surya was more stylish in the precursor. To be outdone more by a newcomer is something Kamal would not like, so he did what he did best make everyone forget all about it.
We’ve all seen PKS and 5thanthiram. Funny in parts sure, but even in that Kamal had to change his facial appearance and so on, just to differentiate himself. Do you see Rajini doing that? Before you all accuse me of sacrilege, no I’m not saying Rajini is better or anything along those lines, but I am saying Rajini has much much much more on screen presence, and whenever Kamal tries to emulate that sort of presence he falls flat.
The director of Chachi 420, (before Kamal had a falling out and took over) expressed similar opinions. I will try to get the article, been out of all this stuff for ages you see.
2) The other aspect is that Kamal himself wants to play all sorts of roles, he knows he can’t do them all properly, so he appeases himself by doing this.
3) Ever since Michael Madana… and surely even more so since Indian and Avvai Shanmugi, people expect every once in a while to be treated to Kamal’s versatility. The multiple role Kamal movie has come to mean a sort of festival, a deepavali of sorts. It is this goldmine Kamal is mining in the hope of it leading to further riches.
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I also think it’s high time we cleared up some of the myths surrounding Kamal. For most of us Tamil film aficionados he represents one of the few director/actors willing to push the envelope, willing to experiment and who has a resume as varied as India itself. However I think the Kamal mythos has been propelled to heights unworthy of him by us as well.
Many in the Tamil film fraternity often relate to Kamal as someone who will bring them fame from outside the country. Kamal himself has expressed this sentiment on a few occasions. However the question needs to be asked in all sincerity, is this “title” justified? Just what has he done to declare himself the world hero? He may say he thinks little of the Oscar, but his songs (surely the most pitiable form of self flattery “Oscar duuram illai” – unless of course he meant his redoubtable producer who poured money at him like a priest would pour Milk on a lingam) and his constant egress towards that direction says otherwise.
In the Kamal canon, personally I find there to be maybe a dozen worthy films, surrounded by trash. There are many films in which his efforts have come to the fore (take Salangai Oli, sure he danced well and the film was above average) but is the film truly exceptional? Is it a masterpiece?
The Kamal snowball effect, which really has been propelled by NRIs who feel he is closest to Hollywood thanks to his loveable liberalism and his atheism. Kamal now stands for something better than he really is. Symptomatically, the expectations are sky high. Thanks to people like Philip Lutgendorf (and of course a search engine which shall not be named), Hey Ram has become a film worthy of study. To many this has translated into Kamal being a worthy academic figure. But is he really?
Hey Ram is a masterpiece no doubt. Aalavandan itself is good enough to escape being canonised as an experiment gone wrong. Anbe Sivam contains enough sappy red blooded (pun not intended) sentiment to work quite well to. Virumaandi contains astute direction but I just wonder if it would have been a real boon if someone besides Kamal had played the title character itself.
And that is the true indictment Kamal faces. There is no two ways about it. He is on a self funded ego trip here and has been for at least 15 years if not more. It is high time the Kamal of old returned. The one we saw in Nayagan who looked at that photograph of his daughter in Nasser’s room, moved his facial muscles ever so slightly and made us subliminally cry. Efforts like Vettayadu, while a step in the right direction, was for the wrong reason. Gautham Menon expressed (I think in your interview) that Kamal thought of them as a “group of boys”. What exactly does he think of himself then? A master auter who has scaled every pinnacle? A Kiarostami? A Kurosawa?
Lastly, Kamal has to learn to accept and use the art of suggestion. The love making scenes with Abhirami in Virumaandi were cringe worthy. Perhaps I’m alone, but they were not in the slightest bit romantic, they were revolting. This isn’t to say the ones in Hey Ram were, but he’s aged and he has to accept that. The less you see, the more you really know. The less you do, the more you really see. Maybe at this juncture of his life, Kamal (atheist and all), should start adopting this mantra.
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brangan
July 16, 2008
APALA: “So, don’t dumb down him for DASA.” Oh no – my problem is with the FILM and the film only. Why he chose to make the film… all that is best known to him, and more power to him if his reasons have paid off in a big way (hence the final para in this piece).
Deepauk M: “Are you saying he should restrict himself to those everyman roles or do those in addition to the big budget spectaculars?” Oh, the latter. But I am also with Ravi K above, when he says, “When complicated make-up is involved, do it right or don’t do it at all.” I would extend this to makeup, spl. effects, whatever in these “big budget spectaculars.”
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raj
July 16, 2008
Venkat, some of your points are valid. Some are not. Kamal is self-indulgent we say – but when Sanjay Leela bhansali super-indulges himself, caring a damn for the audience, prominent critics will write whole articles defending his right to be self-indulgent. Indha padathai poi thittarangale, ivanai paavam ipdi otrangalenu azhuvom andha Bhansalikkaga. Aanal, Kamal matttum ego-vai surutti vechuttu, indulgence-la indulge pannanam, orama okkarndhukkanamu?
Enna idhu, even when we criticise Saawariya, it is tempered with “director’s vision, kuppa thotti”-nu oru defence pottuppom. But inge pannina, adhu nollai idhu nollai. Kamal-a ego sapptuduthu adhu idhunnu solvom.
Doesnt Kamal have as much right as a Bhansali to indulge?
Innoru vishayam, Bhansali loud-aa pannina, he is just reflecting Indian ethos. Kamal loud-a pannina, you ask him to use ‘suggestion’. Nalla keedhepa idhu?
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Shankar
July 16, 2008
Sagarika, Kamal and Raja go a long way back and have a very healthy respect for each other. In that anecdote, when Kamal came back to Prasad Studios after lunch, he was completely amazed that the entire track was ready for recording. Raja is known to compose with tremendous speed. The track is the title song “Vikram Vikram”.
Similarly, during the making of “Hey Ram”, when Kamal had the falling out with L. Subs, he was in a difficult predicament. The songs were all composed and shot, but couldn’t be used now since L. Subs wasn’t the MD anymore. This meant that all the songs had to be freshly composed, with the same lyrics, with the same timing (so it would sync with the visuals on screen) and pretty much the same structure. Again Kamal turned to Raja and Raja didn’t disappoint him. It was a superb soundtrack and had some beautiful numbers.
Again, I don’t think Raja would extend that courtesy to many others. Raja is known to play by his rules, however with Kamal, it’s quite different.
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Zero
July 16, 2008
I can’t believe we’re still talking about Kamal Haasan the artist, being “on a self funded ego trip” and all that jazz!
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Shankar
July 16, 2008
Sagarika, here is another interesting anecdote. This is from an interview given to Asianet by Dennis Joseph, writer-director from the malayalam film industry.
Dennis Joseph made his debut in movie direction with the movie ADHARVAM starring Mammooty,Parvathy,Ganesh Kumar and Charuhaasan back in 1988.Silk Smitha played a very important role, one of the few with some substance in her entire career. It was produced by EERAALI,one of the big time producers in Kerala in the 80s.
“when I got the chance to do ADHARVAM the first decision made was music has to be from none other than Isaignani Ilaiyaraaja.I was his diehard fan and the supernatural theme of the movie begged for Maestro’s compositions. Off I went to Chennai and somehow managed to talk to Isaignani’s associate at Prasad Studio. The immediate answer was negative. I tried other sources including directors like I.V.Sasi and Joshi and at last got to meet him in person. Seeing that I was adamant and the project was real with superstar Mammooty’s presence I got a yes as answer. He was so busy then he hardly got time to talk with me. In between I was informed that Maestros price was Rs.500,000/-.My producer almost died of heart attack. His brand new Contessa car then cost around Rs.165,000/-.
I waited till evening 7pm and when the great man came out of the studio found me with tears in eyes. I told him my producers plight and he surprised me with a hearty laugh. He asked me how much was the charge usually paid to top notch Malayalam MDs.I had seen Shyam and Ravindran getting 10,000 to 15,000 rupees. I lied that it was around Rs.25,000/-.He said I will accept that. In a few days we recorded masterpieces like ‘Poovay Virinju’,’Puzhayorathil poo thoni’ immortalized by Smitha and my favorite naga song ‘Ambilikalayum’.The last tune was composed in less than 10 minutes. I was not quiet happy and sure about the tune and its outcome but when the track was recorded I was bowled away, it was just an authentic rustic kerala ‘navooru’ song.
The movie released and the songs were a rage. The movie did well too. The climax mayhem scenes were lifted to a new level with high quality background score and superior re-recording.
Isaignani never saw the Rs.25,000/- promised by my producer and he not even once bothered my producer asking for it.I met him after ADHARVAM a number of times and the it was just warm smiles and pats on the back,not a single word about the fee he never received.I haven’t heard him mentioning it in any interview or to someone I knew…amazing personality”
It just shows there are many sides to this man…
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Ramkumar
July 16, 2008
brilliant article n nice commments!! Havin convinced my friends to watch Dasavatharam turned to be such a embarassment.. Towards the fag end of the movie esp. after enduring the movie with mountainous patience despite horrendous make up, when Fletcher says “Remember Hiroshima, and the japan master says “Remember Pearl Harbor” , it jolted me out of my seat. It hit me so hard. How could Kamal think of writing something like this…What was runnin at the back of his mind when he wrote this dialogue. I hate to even think about it now.. May God bring back old kamal whom i loved and cried n adored..
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Sridhar
July 16, 2008
To BR, Venkat and others out there:
Dasa was never promoted as the same genre as Mahanadhi, Hey Raam or Anbe Sivam. So people like you (who i believe been following Dasa even before the release) should know what to expect.
Irrespective of all your hyper critical comments, I am glad to see that it has smashed all the records and have become one of the highest grossing INDIAN movie (not just Tamil.) Personally I feel it is one of the very best and racy screenplays (though some of the characters might seem out of place or forcefully inserted) in Indian Cinema.
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abc
July 16, 2008
first think a scenario you cant fool people with same navarathiri type of makeup now to show 10 characters.the need for 10 kamals is the same why sivaji ganesan did it where 1 sivaji in guest role will do.why peter sellers acted in dr.strange love.you aske anybody who knows cinema rather you write a review living in utopia.listen to all the interviews kamal and k.s.ravikumar gave and madhan’s show where they talked about the film with yuhi sethu who knows cinema 1000 times more than you,dont show the world you are a fool by writing these kind of reviews again.this is the highest grossed film ever in india cinema and if you want you check all the boxoffice reports.and if you want kamal to do only classy pictures you wait for marmayogi.
you cant be a star in this country doing heyram and anbesivam you have to consolidate your position and your prowess in the boxoffice to show the world that you are still alive and kicking.with these things in mind kamal had done a film which bridges art as well as commercial cinema.if you dont know the nuances in film making wait for the making of dasavatharam dvd and write your review again i will listen to you then.
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brangan
July 16, 2008
Zero: Ah, you finally decided to show up… And yes, we appear to be like this only 🙂
Shankar: Hey, was that the film with Thamarakkili padunnu? I remember Shivri had a tape with the song, and I was totally bowled over at first listen. IIRC, it was the first Mal. song of Raja I heard.
Ramkumar: Thanks. But be warned that you may be flamed for this comment 🙂
Sridhar: “So people like you (who i believe been following Dasa even before the release) should know what to expect.” If you’ve been reading the comments here and earlier, you’ll know the expectation wasn’t a Hey Ram, but a… oh, never mind.
abc: “dont show the world you are a fool by writing these kind of reviews again.” Thanks man. I’m always a sucker for good advice.
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Shankar
July 16, 2008
Baddy, Thamarakkili padunnu was from the film “Moonam Pakkam”, a really good movie by Padmarajan. In case you are wondering who padmarajan is, this link will tell you a little bit about his awesome abilities.
http://occupiedspace.blogspot.com/2006/05/repertoire-of-padmarajan.html
Coming back to “Adharvam”, it had couple of standout tracks as well as terrific BGM. I loved the movie when I first watched it (still do!) and do have a DVD in my collection. The supernatural theme was pretty bold and unique at that time and the director did a great job with the subject. If you haven’t seen it, I would highly recommend it.
This is what I love about mallu movies in the 80s…terrific subjects, deft handling without straying (compromising) from the main theme, natural performances etc. Infact for example, if you consider Mammootty, the sheer range of roles (and the themes his movies have dealt with) he has splendidly portrayed over the years would put to shame any other actor in India (barring perhaps Kamal).
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Deepauk M
July 16, 2008
Shankar: Thanks for the incredible anecdote. Atharvam has some incredible music. I dont remember the re-recording because I only remember bits and pieces of the movie from a looong time ago. The movie is a fantasy based on a social outcast (Mammootty) who decides to explore the dark aspects of the Atharva Veda to exact his revenge on the society that ostracized him. Anyone who has seen “Pillai Nila” or even heard “Raja Magal” – released 4 (the number of vedas – demonstrating butterfly effect hence Dasa is a good movie – Q.E.D) years before Atharvam – can understand Dennis Joseph’s preference for Raja and the philosophical aspects may have drawn Raja to the project.
1. Poovay Virinju : Great interludes, especially the one before the second charanam with the violin and doublebass/cello (not sure abt this). Oh to be born a stradivarius and play Raja!
2.Puzhayorathil : Chithra is really good here as is Silk Smitha in the picturisation.
There is a third song slightly “Ozhukunna Puzhayil” almost a ghazalish throwback to Devarajan master times which I enjoy very much. Thanks for reminding me to revisit the songs.
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Deepauk M
July 16, 2008
As Shankar says Thamarakkili Padunnu ( lovely bucolic thanthaanenaa in the interlude by raja) – is from Moonaam Pakkam – great movie incredible performance by Thilakan. As is another great song Unarumee Gaanam sung by Venugopal. There is a tidbit I have to share about this. Singer Srinivas (of Minsara Kanna fame) was supposedly a crazy fan of Raja was at the recording and completely bowled over by the orchestration and music. He apparently implored him to give him a chance to sing but things didnt work out at that time.
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Naveen
July 16, 2008
Boring review… Reviewer is very self obsessed and wants to keep talking. Movie is quite good entertainer. If you want only intelligent movies from Kamal then you should have taken your ass to the theaters multiple times and made Hey Ram a hit. U didn’t do that. Now, why do you talk?
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Maduraiveeran
July 16, 2008
The analysis on Dasvatharam is spot on. When the make-up is like this, it could have been any one like dupes being used in fights. The story-line is thin and it does not justify all the ten avathars. My feeling is Kamal Haasan has become haughty and tends to think what he is doing is right. The element of humility is missing in him. The result is his engaging Himesh Reshmaiya instead of A.R.Rehman or Ilaiyaraja. Overall it is a disappointing movie for ardent Kamal fans like me.
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Sagarika
July 17, 2008
Shankar: Lovely anecdotes, both Hey Ram and the Mallu movie one. I had no freaking clue that Kamal and IR were this close nor any idea about IR’s magnanimity (this surely must be Kollywood’s best-kept secret, given how the only word that’s managed to wind its way (over the years) into collective ears — thanks to the snippety gossipy rags — is how arrogant IR is. And herein lies his true humility, IMO…that he doesn’t spend a lifetime trying to debunk that myth, and instead continues to give his work his all – what focus, man, what focus…Oh to love art for art’s sake as opposed to popularity’s sake, money’s sake…And funny how no one bothers to bring that out about artists these days (and that may likely be because that trait’s on the fast-track to extinction), in the all-too-mad rush to ascribe intents that conveniently lend themselves to magazine/air-time sales!).
Would love to hear more. Maybe brangan could twist his buddy’s arm to spit up an anecdote-a-day to keep us all permanently cocooned in the 80s nostalgia? 🙂 Just kidding…you clearly needed no arm twisting. All one has to do is gently drop a tiny pebble into your filled-to-the-brim pool-of-anecdotes, and simply stand by and watch the ripples quietly come their way – was truly awesome, thank you for recounting!
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Ajay
July 17, 2008
Hi
Hi BR
Awesome post! Have been an avid reader of yours for quite some years now, but this is the first time U have moved me to comment.
Reading Your Post was an eerie experience for me, as in some places it looked like as if it was your reply to my take of Dasa.
http://ajaycool.blogspot.com/2008/07/dasavatharam-one-legend-ten-characters.html
PS: Heard rumors that you are a BITSian. Is it true? If so, I would be the happiest junior around 🙂
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Ranjit
July 17, 2008
Shankar, thanks for posting the link to my post about PAdmarajan. And yeah, Adharvam was a pretty good movie with a truly different theme…I haven’t found a DVD anywhere though 😦 !!
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Srivatsan
July 17, 2008
Baradwaj,
Lets also not forget it’s his biggest hit since Avvai Shanmugi or Indian?. If Kamal gets his satisfaction from BO results then I’m happy for Kamal :), what do you think?
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raj
July 17, 2008
BR, believe it or not, I was just yesterday going to ask you -do you hear IR’s other language gems – prompted by the appearance of Thamarakili Padunnu in my playlist 🙂
Moonam Pakkam, Mangalam Nerunnu, Unaroo(Manirathnam movie with Mohanlal – maybe extending Deepak’s cheeky wit- all with a strong M connection – chaos theory so dasa is a good movie:-)) all had lovely songs. I havent seen any of them. But the songs…so dripping with malayalam-ness, and emotion. Unaroo even has the malayalam version of Roja Ondru mutham ketkum neram – but the love-duet genericity of the latter is replaced by emotional context – and the results are electrifying. I have one advantage – I have all of these on my hard disk – so I’m off to a fresh hearing..
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raj
July 17, 2008
Shankar, was namakku parkkan munthiri thoppugal by Raja?
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Venkat
July 17, 2008
@Raj: “it is tempered with “director’s vision, kuppa thotti”-nu oru defence pottuppom.” – Super comedy.
But on a serious note, indulgence is fine by me (if reports are correct, he’s going to be doing more of the same in Marmayogi and the other M film. I don’t mind the grandeur (or at least the megalomania) but the film has to be astute. Saawariya was more astute than Dasa imo. But that’s not the point. The point is, if you’re going to spend millions on a movie, then it had better be good.
I don’t think Dasa was good as a personal statement either. Take for example Youth Without Youth – Coppolas indulgence (tragically underrated – it featured some horrid make up too) but still it fell in line with a constant directorial vision. I didn’t find Kamal’s directorial vision, personal statement or any other manifestation of his ethos evident in Dasa. Maybe that is an oversight on my part, but from what I gathered it featured the usual Kamalisms (eg his view of the relevance of God, the usual science = enlightenment and so on). As for Chaos theory and Physics, having studied enough university science myself, it doesn’t strike a chord there either.
And that’s what is most worrying about his latest efforts. They don’t seem to have a point. MX, imo was a very good dramedy and sure it involved the consequences of poverty on the human condition in a touching scenario, but there definitely are more relevant ways of making that point. Vasool Raja was just plain shit. Virumaandi, a fine exploration of the nature of truth – but then his purpose was to attack capital punishment; and in that quest, after all the wild jail riot scenes (in which more murder takes place than the number of capital deaths a year presumably) a tacked on interview at the end just doesn’t cut it.
I don’t think Kamal (unlike Mani Ratnam in Thiruda Thiruda) advanced the state of cinema from a purely cinematic viewpoint in Dasa either. The graphics were subpar, the makeup was horrible, the rerecording standard, the use of camera was also very passé.
So yeh, back to my point: if you’re going to indulge, indulge for some purpose and achieve that purpose. Kamal has NOT done that recently.
ALSO, to all those who decry Dasa as a “non serious” effort – what sort of argument is this? Rs 60CR wasted – non serious? 2 years of his filmmaking time – non serious?
After all we don’t want the most gifted actor going around to end up becoming a caricature of himself. Nor do we want him to become some sort of quasi Eddie Murphy/Dustin Hoffman. No, we want Kamal Hassan back.
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raj
July 17, 2008
Should say poovai virinju re-invokes Azhagu Malar aada to a large extent
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brangan
July 17, 2008
Naveen: “Reviewer is very self obsessed and wants to keep talking.” Yeah, I’ve noticed brevity is certainly not my strong point.
Maduraiveeran/Ajay: Thanks. Ajay – yup. Shankar is too…
Srivatsan: Oh certainly. This piece is, as I told APALA, only about the film. But is that right, about this being that big a hit? From what I know, Kollywood numbers aren’t tracked like Bollywood or Hollywood, i.e. directly from the theatres. (The figures are got from the distribuors, and what’s released to the press could be quite unreliable.) But in theory, yes, if it’s done well, I’m happy for him.
Venkat: You seem to echo a lot of my thoughts. I completely agree about ambitious films needing a streamlined vision — and only a strong director can provide that. On paper, Dasa may have rocked, but what’s been translated to screen is hardly an organic vision stretched across the various fields of filmmaking. Hey ram and Aalavandhan were held together by that vision — what should the final film look like, sound like, how does the music fit in, what’s the overall design that will make the film look one-of-a-piece and not just a patchwork of scenes — which was completely lacking here.
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Deepauk M
July 17, 2008
Raj: Namukku Parkkaan is by Johnson Padmarajan’s constant asociate. I believe Moonam Pakkam and Season are the 2 times Raja composed for Padmarajan. And the obvious similarity betweeen Azhagu Malar aada and Poovai Virinju is the cadence/beat. The mood and orchestration are quite different.
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Sridhar
July 17, 2008
“the use of camera was also very passé.”
Wow, in an attempt to find faults you highlight one of the strengths (camera work) as fault.
” Saawariya was more astute than Dasa imo” – You sound more and more trying to please BR here. Sawariya is a crappy movie, other than some good songs and cinematography
I am glad that the movie is running packed house inspite of self confessed intelluctuals like you.
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Anand
July 17, 2008
Venkat, I just have one question for you. If you think Kamal Haasan is not worthy of the hero-worship(ulaga nayagan and all that) we fans give him, so be it..You are entitled to your opinion. But is there any one in Indian Contemporary cinema who you think has pushed the envelope enough to be worthy of your praise?
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Anand
July 17, 2008
Baradwaj Rangan, after 40 days you have finally not been able to contain yourself and have come out with this article…Have you got so many responses for any of your other “articles”? I am curioius to know.
People may say that they agree with you, they may say that they do not agree with you..but what I am saying is this. Did you expect this kind of phenomenal response to your article, after 40 days of the film’s release? And though it is a fantastically written piece, the response has come out because the film has had an effect. People have been reacting to the film and your article is only a catalyst. A bad film is one which does not affect us. Two days after you watch the film , you become indifferent to it. Had Dasa been a bad film, do you think that so many people would have taken their time off and commented on your article?
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Anand
July 17, 2008
60 Crores…I cant believe so many people fell for this!! The movie would not have cost more than 30-35 crores. Media says Aascar Ravi’next film budget is 600 crores..how many people are going to take that one?
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Sridhar
July 17, 2008
(Something happened when i tried to post last time, not sure if it made it, my apologies if this is a duplicate posting)
“the use of camera was also very passé” – Cinematography for Dasa is one of the strengths of Dasa, in fact it could be easily classed as world class.
“Saawariya was more astute than Dasa imo” – Great Joke. Other than some nice songs and good camera work Saawariya is a shitty product and even SL Bhansali will laugh at you. On hearing this, you sound more and more like BR.
I am glad that inspite of negative remarks from self confessed intelectuals (i can see plenty of them in this site) the movie is running packed house in all the centres. (Or is BR not willing to believe this unless he sees numbers directly from theatres?)
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Shankar
July 17, 2008
Raj, I’m pretty sure I have all the songs composed by Raja in Malayalam…and I agree, it is an absolute treasure as well.
Coming back to anecdotes, here’s another one. I do sincerely apologize for the digressions but I think these are worth recounting since it does put a different perspective on Raja, as in this example.
Back in 2000 when Raja was visiting US, a bunch of us got the opportunity to arrange a small dinner for him. For us, it was a splendid occasion to meet the man in a private setting. One of the questions I asked him was why he was not inclined to perform in music concerts (Since then I know that he has done a couple of concerts but I suspect that might be out of other compulsions). His answer took me by surprise. He said “I’m very keen to do stage concerts however I’m not so keen on rehashing my earlier hits on stage. I would like to compose brand new music and present it in a concert. But the irony is that no concert organizer or advertiser is in the least bit interested in such an effort.”
That did set me thinking. It is true that we clamor for popular songs at the concerts (even the ones performed by various music troupes). But if you think about it from a musician’s composing perspective (someone who loves art for art’s sake), where is the motivation to go out and perform your own hits from the past 20 years? I’m not saying people who do that now are in the wrong. Everybody has their own logic for doing so and they have the right to. But that day, it just showed me the passion with which this man approaches his art…he believes he has been destined to do so all his life.
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brangan
July 17, 2008
Shankar: No problemo about digressions, man. Take all the space you want.
BTW, I subscribe to the theory that live concerts are best suited to those styles of music that have to do with “manodharma” — eg. jazz, ICM, rock, and so on. WCM would be the exception that fits in, but that is the way it was written, to be performed by an orchestra (whether in the studio or live).
But otherwise, with Raja and Rahman and so on, there are too many variables in the studio setting to satisfactorily translate to a live setting. The few Raja concerts I’ve heard were especially grating because the ludes sounded like pale shadows of the originals.
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Shankar
July 17, 2008
I agree with you there. I went to a Rahman concert in NY in 2000 and the music was quite disappointing. Though most of the studio effects were present (pre-mixed), it just didn’t sound right. Though it’s not the same with Raja’s compositions due to less usage of technology (at least for songs from the 80s), it still doesn’t translate well as you point out. I too feel that they best heard on a CD player.
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Ranjit
July 17, 2008
Another Raaja anecdote that I have read about – when Fazil was making ‘Nokkatha Dooarathu Kannum Nattu’ (it’s there in Tamil too, with Nadiya Moidu and Padmini – dont remmeber the name), there’s a number that underscores the great love between the grandmother and granddaughter. The number goes ‘Aayiram Kannumay…’, pretty much on the top of my Ipod Mallu playlist even now.
Since the movie and the especially the song was about the two ladies, Fazil wanted Susheela to sing the number. But Raaja insisted on Yesudas singing it, saying that the whole church-like beat (the whole film had a very strong Christian ethos) absolutely demanded a male voice, and he finally had his way too. And Yesudas sung his heart out out in that number. There was a female version, but it didn’t quite cut it. Nor did the Tamil song (a very very good song, but without the ‘magic’ IMHO) ‘Poove Poo Choodava’.
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Deepauk M
July 17, 2008
Agree with both Shankar and Brangan on the live concerts (the one in Sharjah was particularly sub-par ibn terms of the interludes). Another thing I wanted to add is his compositions arent necessarily better as a communal experience. They are more along the lines of a personal journey.
I was listening to “Vaana mazhai pole” from Idhu namma bhoomi yesterday and thinking how true some of the lyrics especially in light of Shankar’s comments: ” Araiyil paatteduppen, Arangam thevai illai…Enakke naan sugam serkka thinamum paadugindrein” 🙂 .
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Sagarika
July 17, 2008
Shankar: Wow – you got to meet IR face-to-face? What brand of gooseflesh-repellent did you slather on, pray tell? OK, I know..it’s probably the same brand brangan slathered on last August! 🙂
So between the two of you, Kamal Hassan seems to be the ONLY interview-eluding BIG eel – dang! 🙂
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Srivatsan
July 17, 2008
Baradwaj,
Here are the figures. Collection in Chennai alone (excluding suburbs, and yes I mean from theatres with occupancy percentages) till date is a whopping 7.63 crores. I heard that at Satyam Cinemas alone the figure was more than 1 crore. My Friend went to see the movie last Sunday (12th July) night show and claims the hall was full!!!.
As for collections outside the US, it’s about 14 million USD. Collections in the US – about 11.7 million.
Now tell me which Kamal movie has come close to this 🙂 ?.
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Srivatsan
July 17, 2008
Yes it’s from theatres. The collection in Chennai (excluding suburbs) is around 7.5 crores.
Totally I heard the movie has grossed around 25 million USD
PS: My friend went to the movie last Sunday, claims the hall was full 🙂
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Ajay
July 18, 2008
Sorry to barge into ur Convo, but I couldn’t agree with you guys more.
Maybe Raja’s ideas could prove fruitful if he gives such concert to a smaller audience, preferably to those who can take the new music and appreciate it.
Something like a Carnatic Music Kutcheri. Imagine the power of the Musician in such a concert. He is already paid. He doesn’t expect too big a crowd. But he can be damn sure that a good chunk of the crowd would be receptive to his music, his style and innovations and the way he elaborates a Raaga etc
Am sure it wouldn’t work with a larger and more heterogeneous audience.
And contrasting to movie songs, I feel Carnatic Songs are best heard in Live Concerts,maybe because of the Low Technology involved?
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rbehemoth
July 18, 2008
all that (the article AND most of the comments – which i have made a point to go through) are fine… but can anyone please explain why choose Himesh Reshamiya off all the people for music…? In fact, choosing Mallika Sherawat might have been fine (or rather ‘forgivable’)… but Himesh…? seriously?
and no, i dont want the usual he-wanted-to-more-mass-appeal… i mean COMEON!!!
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Venkat
July 18, 2008
@Sridhar – Let’s agree to disagree. FYI, I mentioned camera, not directly cinematography.
For bringing up this point, I should thank you, because had Kamal not done VV, he wouldn’t have got the cinematographer to work on this. – Yet more proof that living inside his own world Kamal seems to be alienating himself from new talent. I hope I am wrong about this and fresh ideas, cast and crew turn up in future. I am getting quite bored of seeing Nasser, Santhanabharthi and friends all the time.
As for the “self confessed intellectual” part – aren’t we all? Considering we’re having quite a sensible debate over all this. Or does that mean none of us is?
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Bhargs
July 18, 2008
I am going off-topic. when can we expect a review of Dark Knight?
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Ravi K
July 18, 2008
Even crappy Vijay films make tons of money. Are box office collections the indication of quality?
The self-congratulation starts even before the movie itself. There was that “for the first time in history an actor playing 10 roles” sequence and the “ulaganayagan” title card for Kamal. Come on, stop trying to sell me on the film, I already bought my ticket! Instead of trying to portray Kamal as a great actor or great filmmaker or whatever, let’s admit that he’s not so different from someone like Rajinikanth.
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raj
July 18, 2008
“Saawariya was more astute than Dasa imo””
this is better comedy than what you quoted, IMO. Leave it, gloss=good is not a formula I subscribe to.
Why this obsession with ‘justifying the budget’? 60 cr might be a smokescreen to deflect the IT authorities by Aascar Ravichandran. Maybe, Kamal had a cut, who knows. And man, doesnt he deserve it. it is not as if he is going to invest that black money into personal funds.
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raj
July 18, 2008
“Hey ram and Aalavandhan were held together by that vision — what should the final film look like, sound like, how does the music fit in, what’s the overall design that will make the film look one-of-a-piece and not just a patchwork of scenes — which was completely lacking here”
BR, have to agree with you on this.
Do you think Main Hoon Na and Saanwariya were visualised and realised as per the visualisation? Then, I can only salute your powers of imagination!
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raj
July 18, 2008
I am bored of seeing Santhanabharathi but not Nasser. Give the man some credit. He is a fine actor. Would you say the same of Om Puri? Though I guess with his recent mindless Priyadarshan roles, we are close to saying that.
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raj
July 18, 2008
Shankar, yeah, the mallu ones are easy to get. Do you have the kannada ones? Apart from pallavi anupallavi I mean. I have a few but still searching for many. The kannada IR , especially the late 70’s one, is a different animal altogether. Playful, disco-heavy and perhaps, is the counterpoint to the Rahman of mustafa mustafa days.
The current song on my play list is
“Theeram thedi olam paadi melle..” –
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raj
July 18, 2008
Ranjit,
Aayiram Kannumai in Nokketha… wasnt Raja.Was it Johnson or perhaps it was that composer who had a problem with Naushad which was mentioned by Shankar sometime back in these spaces. I forget his name.
And it has a Chitra version, too. And that was the song that IR first heard of Chitra and took an interest…
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raj
July 18, 2008
Shankar, Thoovana thumbigal was Raja?
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Shankar
July 18, 2008
Ranjit, I agree “Aayiram kannumay” is a very soulful number and captures the mood very effectively. I think Jerry Amaldev did a good job in that film.
Sagarika, I don’t think I will ever interview Kamal (I just wouldn’t know what to ask) but I have met him couple of times. The one time that I got to have a real conversation was, many years ago, when he was convalescing at home from a leg injury sustained during the shooting of Devar Magan.
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raj
July 18, 2008
Venkat, Kamal got thiru for hey ram without having to work previously with him so it is a bit devious to give VV so much of credit for giving him Ravivarman. The latter half of VV alone makes it a lot more intolerable than Dasa.
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Bala
July 18, 2008
ahem ..drop everything ..Dark Knight is here 🙂 watching it ?
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Zero
July 18, 2008
I second Raj on that one. Kamal has worked with several DOPs since his association with PC Sreeram in late 80s. MS Prabhu, Thiru, Jehangir Choudhary (who’s actually a veteran), Siddharth, Keshav Prakash, and so on. (At times, I’ve felt that he usually tends to pick newcomers so as to channel their enthusiasm and extract the best work, but at the same time also ensure that the film comes out the way *he* conceives it. :)) It’s outrageous to suggest that “Kamal has been alienating himself from new talent” until he met Ravivarman in the sets of VV!
And, yes, I wasn’t impressed with the camera work in Dasavathaaram (and, in all fairness, Ravivarman is probably not to be blamed here; may be, there wasn’t enough scope for him), but Ravivarman’s work in Vettaiyaadu Vilaiyaadu (which is largely a pointless derivative of the visual style of stock Hollywood thrillers) certainly doesn’t add much value to his résumé, IMO.
I thought Dasavathaaram was poor in a formal sense. It hardly had a visual language of its own, and was patchy in terms of its form in general. In that respect, I agree with Baradwaj’s comment that there was “hardly an organic vision stretched across the various fields of filmmaking.” And, this is an excellent piece, as usual.
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Zero
July 18, 2008
And, Raj, a nitpick. Kamal first got Thiru to work for his film, yes, but that was for Magalir Mattum. 🙂 (He was the DOP for Kaadhala Kaadhala too.)
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Krishna
July 18, 2008
raj
the “thoovana thumpikal” score was by Perumbavoor G Ravindranath.
baradwaj
i too have issues with dasa’s “collections”. aascar has been quoted that it’s set to clock 100 crore. i mean, a 100 crore! for something that has generated such bad word, this is phenomenal. if there’s anything to the claims. the rider is IF 😀
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Shankar
July 18, 2008
raj, Thoovana Thumbigal was by Perumbavoor Raveendranath with Johnson doing the background score. I love “Onnam raagam padi”…beautiful song.
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Sridhar
July 18, 2008
Kamal spotted Ravi Varman much before he had a chance to work with him in VV. Ravi received somekind of international award at least an year before VV started and Kamal had to attend that function and had felicitated him. In that function Ravi happened to thank Kamal for his support all these years long.
So it is not bcse of VV that Ravi got the chance.
Titbit: Actually Kamal had approached Ravi K Chandran first. But since he was busy with another project he had given the chance to Ravi Varman.
“Kamal has worked with several DOPs since his association with PC Sreeram in late 80s. MS Prabhu, Thiru, Jehangir Choudhary (who’s actually a veteran), Siddharth, Keshav Prakash, and so on. (At times, I’ve felt that he usually tends to pick newcomers so as to channel their enthusiasm and extract the best work, but at the same time also ensure that the film comes out the way *he* conceives it. :)”
I totally agree with Zero on that.
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Deepauk M
July 18, 2008
2 songs from thoovanathumbikal -Onnam Ragam Paadi (those scenes reminds me of every uncrowded temple I’ve seen in Kerala) and Megham Poothu thudangi (Lal and Sumalatha in the car)- lovely music and visuals.
Raj: I have had so much trouble finding Unaru and Mangalam Nerunnu. Surprised that you found them so easily. And thanks for bringing up Pallavi Anupallavi – I went on a “Nagu Enthithe” trip. 🙂
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brangan
July 18, 2008
rbehemoth: Himesh and Mallika were sops for for the North Indian market, I thought?
Bhargs/Bala: Hope to see it soon. Got stuck with two other films today 😦
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kusilk
July 20, 2008
Nicely written. Reflects most of what was going thru me the night after watching dasa. Not sure if you’d have managed to ask these questions had you been granted an audience.
MW, pls correct me if wrong, aren’t you being somewhat too harsh on Kamal, as if his condition was something beyond redemption? esply, your comments on Marmayogi.
And to all those self-confessed intellectuals who made a path-breaking discovery that Kamal has no screen presence at all while that other actor has loads and loads of it – somehow I’ve never understood this charisma business so far. Is it the same as the mass appeal(!) that a vijay or a vadivelu has?. Or does charisma got to have some intellectual attributes too?! I’ll be enlightened if a geek clarifies.
Yes, Ravi Varman’s association with Kamal goes some time back,back in time. he had assisted RK Chandran in Marudhanayagam. When he got the award for Shantham, Kamal called for a press meet and broke the news, he had said in an interview.
Shankar: Thanks for those wonderful snippets on Raja. Just returned from Subramaniapuram, a film that didn’t work at all for me, but then there was a pleasant surprise – two relatively not so popular gems of Raja from 80s. The siru ponmani asaiyum track from Kallukkul Eeram was employed quite effectively. the other one, I’ve not been able to track. already forgotten the tune. A very rustic one describing some pannaiyaar. any idea?
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brangan
July 20, 2008
kusilk: That was Thottam konda raasave, from Pagalil Or Iravu. A superb folk song. And Siru Ponmani was quite popular, I thought. BTW, the film didn’t work “at all” for you? Wow!
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karthik
July 21, 2008
Rangan…check this out. Somthing i came across. A column in defense of Dasavatharam.
http://www.behindwoods.com/features/column/index-ss.html
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APALA
July 21, 2008
Hi BRangan:
To stress your point, Kamal-sir himself (I am sure you read that news item) that he had made mistakes in DASA and he agreed that there was no story – but a chance to showcase 10-avatharams inspired by Navarathiri!
He also promised YOU that he will not make those mistakes in MARMAYOGI!
Even though he had not given you time for the interview, still HE LISTENED to YOU (I am sure he read your article!).
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kusilk
July 23, 2008
Thanks Brangan for that info.
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bart
July 24, 2008
Your between reviews on “Subramaniyapuram” please. Good or okay or yet another – whichever it is …
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Zero
July 25, 2008
Baradwaj,
I’ve to say, I so wholeheartedly agree with Kusilk about ‘Subramaniyapuram.’ It was a load of garbage. What astounds me is how arbitrary regurgitations of such utterly banal themes is hailed as “new wave.” Betrayal and all. Whoa, really?
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raj
July 25, 2008
Zero, thats the lot of tamil film industry. Not only are the mainstream movies bad but the so-called off-beat are pathetically garbage too.
BTW, arbitrary regurgitation? Why dont you actually review something now? Seem to be in good form:-)
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brangan
July 25, 2008
Zero: I don’t think anyone’s calling it “new wave.” I agree there’s nothing “thematically new” here, but I thought it was stunningly handled. Well, to each his own and all that 🙂
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Zero
July 26, 2008
Baradwaj,
Oh! Now, I’m very eager to read your take (in your “Between Reviews” column) on the film! I’ve grown really impatient with films that primarily showcase their setting, and are just hollow otherwise. I admit my strong reaction to this film might have very well stemmed from this perspective. But, on the whole, I didn’t find it engaging at all.
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Qalandar
July 29, 2008
On a different note: Baradwaj, when are you going to treat us to a music review of ARR’s Sakkarakatti? I thought it was pretty good, boatloads of fun (see review on my blog), but that isn’t any reason to be deprived of your insight on the matter…
…sorry for the pressure…
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raj
July 29, 2008
just for the record, this really is the most commented article in BR’s site 🙂
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parthi.nv
August 1, 2008
I don’t have much to say. This is just to increase the number of comments 🙂
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Leo
August 20, 2008
Sir,
I saw in a blog that “DASA..” is a inspired from the hollywood movie “CHill Factor”. And I think you would agree “Devar Magan” was inspired from “God Father”. The list Kamal itself is long. I feel atleast Kamalhaasan others should atleast say ‘ inspired from …’ like RGV did for his “SARKAR”, Gowtham for his ” Pachchaikili…”. As a critic what is your opinion on this?
regards,
Leo
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pulikesi
August 24, 2008
Got interested on the discussion over Raaja here 🙂 Deepauk Here is Unaroo & Mangalam Nerunnu Bundled Together:
http://www.mediafire.com/?3itxnn7b17c
I wrote about the BGM’s of these movie sometime ago here:
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the rock 1
October 9, 2008
By now we all know DASA is highest grossing indian movie in the world. Let’s salute DASA team to bring proudness to all indian. In Malaysia DASA is reopen back for second round as respect to the incredible box office collection.
Lotus Five Star the distrbutor of this movie already make around USD 10 million including theater shows, movie cd and song cd sales. No any tamil has touch this type of collection and im thinking it will be never touch by anybody in tamil fields. The only man can do this is Kamal Haasan and this is already more then 10th times he did for the past 30 years compare to other tamil actors. This year proudly we can say this Tamil actor is the highest paid actor with salary touching Ringgit malaysia 60 million. So good to hear one tamilian manage to make other tamilian proud.
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Karthik
August 1, 2023
@Leo..can I say “Cloud Atlas” is inspired from Dasavatharam??
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