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brangan
June 23, 2022
The video is up.
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Macaulay Perapulla
June 23, 2022
Hope you are doing better BR.
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Madan
June 23, 2022
Just checked insta. Hope you are better now. This is a mystery malady that I recently learnt has a forefather in the Russian influenza pandemic of late 19th century.
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karzzexped
June 23, 2022
BR – The main differentiating factor I find with Narcos showing a Pablo Escobar as the hero vs KGF showing Rocky as the hero is Glorification. The glorification in KGF is so out there that its as if the G in KGF stands for it.
It’s like how Vince Gillian put it (paraphrasing sure) – One doesn’t have to like what Walter White does but just needs to understand why he does what he does.
Our Indian directors are very busy enhancing the former. Make the hero likeable and thus fall into the glorification trap.
Your thoughts?
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brangan
June 23, 2022
karzzexped: A mass movie’s DNA has glorification built into it. So I don’t know if I’d call it a “trap”.
Even here, Prashanth is unapologetic about using the word “mass” many times.
About your Vice Giliigan example — SPOILERS AHEAD — it’s an extension of my Deewar question at the beginning. Here, the mother says “I din’t care how you live, but I want you to die a rich man”. And in Chapter Two, she narrates that “sea of gold” story (which Prashanth discusses to some length here).
So (like Walter White), I am never unsure about the MAIN MOTIVE of Rocky.
PS; I quite like mass cinema, and have no issues with glorification. At the end, it is a piece of fiction.
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karzzexped
June 23, 2022
A mass movie’s DNA has glorification built into it. So I don’t know if I’d call it a “trap” – Maybe trap wasn’t a great word to use from my part, in retrospect a better word would be necessity.
Do you think the moment one decides the scale, milieu and the star who’s going to drive the vehicle forward, there’s a certain pressure for the director/writer to always glorify in order to for the lack of a better word ‘canvas’ the mass audience?
Is glorification the only was to massify the hero?
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kaizokukeshav
June 23, 2022
I think KGF-1 has lot of glorification, but the rise of the character arc matched with that glorification. Prashant is pretty good at weaving glorification with transformation, take for eg. Rocky’s glorified childhood to transform into a assassin, getting new assignments from bigger dons to expand his range, going into the darkest place to transform into a kingpin… at every point the glorifications matched well with story. But KGF-2 didn’t need those transformations anymore, so he started glorifying villains and it worked well too. This is more like a Goonda type massy version of a Scorsese mafia film
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